help me understand one thing.
63,8w in gaming does not seem that much. but i do know that the gpu alone has 90w tdp/power consumption and the cpu is also quite power hungry under load.
the only thing i can assume is that frequencies are very low, far from their peak. so as the performance.
i dont mind spending my money on premium things like build quality, materials, features, the fastest ssd, best cooling or brightest screen, but not for empty numbers.
63.8w in witcher tells me that 8x5ghz cores and 2080s is an empty marketing numbers which will cost me a thousand bucks.
and it still noisy and hot.
so where is the trick? don't you think that 4600r+2060 will provide similar performance for a thousand dollars less? and if so, the laptop should get 1 point out of 5, not 4.5.
where did i go wrong?
It's not fair to compare products outside of their segment, especially when those products don't even exist. With this niche, you're paying a premium for the build, features and specs, and within its niche, the Blade 15 is one of the best offers out there. Whether if it's for you or whether a 2080 Super laptop is even worth buying right now, that's up to you to decide.
Sure, an AMD HS configuration within a similar chassis would be extremely interesting, but that's not the subject of this review.
Hi, I know it is not the object of this review, but do you know if the X1 extreme 3rd gen has (finally) better speakers with respect to the previous generations? All these laptops (including the Razer) are soo expensive and the speakers are soo bad (same for the webcam …). Quite unaccettable given their prices. Many thanks.
Razer keeps putting the ribbon for the screen on that stupid position without reinforcement. It INEVITABLY breaks stopping the signal to the screen or the camera. The chassis is very sensitive to flex over time, especially in the screen bezels, the keyboard still bulges over time due to the high temperature delta on the chassis during gaming. The PSU and battery suppliers are the same, so bloating and PSU catastrophic failure are a certainty not a possibility, it's a matter of when, not if. With that said, the perf/peice on offer is absurd and the QC and build quality do not correspond to the price. And that's before mentioning the CS in Europe which is completely flooded and clearly under cost saving measures. I think if these sites want to be respected as reviewers of laptops they should definitely contact laptop repair stores on record. A store can easily tell the writer that Razer laptops have severe build and design issues that make it a very unreliable product/brand. It's a shame, the KB lighting and look are really top, unfortunately it's a clear case of form over function. Real shame!
I’d like to ask you about your experience using a razer blade 15 as your daily driver if you don’t mind.
I found a blade 15 advanced 2080s (same model reviewed here) on sale for 2300 CAD (about 1900 usd) last month so I immediately snagged it since it still goes for like 4300 brand new on Amazon. However I failed to do all the necessary research on it since I've recently discovered the thousands of complaints on Reddit/ razer about razer’s customer support and QC with a whole host of issues reported from screen failures and fans melting (admittedly rare) to the seemingly inevitable battery swelling which is reported by 3-5 users a week on the sub. Unfortunately, my return period has expired.
I plan on using mine for work, school and gaming and I intend to do some heavy work on it (Inventor/Solidworks, Comsol/Ansys, etc) and reliability is pretty important to me since I really don’t want it failing on me when I have important work to do and exams for example. I’m honestly so worried about this laptop’s potential longevity issues that I’m debating selling it lightly used. (should go for ~2200 lightly used on eBay) and buying something like the legion 5 pro since Lenovo is known for their customer service plus I can get a 3 year warranty with home repair on the Lenovo site if I feel like it.
I absolutely love the blade’s build and form factor and it’s definitely more daily drivable than the L5P which is both bigger and heavier however I honestly wouldn’t mind the extra pound and slightly less room in my bag if the difference in reliability is significant enough..
Do you think it’s worth losing about 300-400 CAD in taxes and stuff and getting a more “reliable” computer that doesn’t feel like a ticking time bomb or am I overreacting and the blade 15 shouldn’t encounter any issues other than battery ones which should be fixable with a quick manual battery swap? (I’m currently only using mine with intel turbo boost off and on a cooling stand so temps don’t get too intense so the battery doesn’t start showing any signs of wear in case I do decide to sell it). I want this thing to last me for 4 years at the very least since I probably won’t be able to comfortably buy something in this price range again till then.
Also I’m considering removing the battery and just running off the power brick for the next couple of weeks since I’m mostly using it at home nowadays and then having a system where I plug the battery in when I’m out and about and remove it during weekends for example when I might just use the computer at home. Would that be a good plan to increase the lifetime of the battery or would I just be risking damaging the battery connector with the constant plugging and unplugging? Also when you use yours do you just leave it plugged it even at 100% charge or do you let it discharge to about 20% before plugging it in again?
Sorry for asking a lot of questions and for the long post, I’m just really worried I made a bad investment and I’ll “regret it” as people on Reddit seem to believe..
I've had my 2019 model since early 2019 and haven't had any problem with battery swelling. Unless you see some symptoms, I wouldn't worry too much about it. If it was that widespread, I think the media would have covered it more by now. I'm not saying it's not happing – just that it's probably rare. Really though, if you type in "battery swelling ______" and fill in the blank with a manufacturer, I'm sure you'll find a lot of posts and pictures. All Li-ion batteries are prone to swelling.
I don't do anything special with charging – it's plugged in most of the time and I unplug it when I take in on the go. Hope this helps
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william blake
September 17, 2020 at 6:10 am
help me understand one thing.
63,8w in gaming does not seem that much. but i do know that the gpu alone has 90w tdp/power consumption and the cpu is also quite power hungry under load.
the only thing i can assume is that frequencies are very low, far from their peak. so as the performance.
i dont mind spending my money on premium things like build quality, materials, features, the fastest ssd, best cooling or brightest screen, but not for empty numbers.
63.8w in witcher tells me that 8x5ghz cores and 2080s is an empty marketing numbers which will cost me a thousand bucks.
and it still noisy and hot.
so where is the trick? don't you think that 4600r+2060 will provide similar performance for a thousand dollars less? and if so, the laptop should get 1 point out of 5, not 4.5.
where did i go wrong?
Andrei Girbea
September 17, 2020 at 1:59 pm
It's not fair to compare products outside of their segment, especially when those products don't even exist. With this niche, you're paying a premium for the build, features and specs, and within its niche, the Blade 15 is one of the best offers out there. Whether if it's for you or whether a 2080 Super laptop is even worth buying right now, that's up to you to decide.
Sure, an AMD HS configuration within a similar chassis would be extremely interesting, but that's not the subject of this review.
Antonio
September 18, 2020 at 8:53 am
Hi, I know it is not the object of this review, but do you know if the X1 extreme 3rd gen has (finally) better speakers with respect to the previous generations? All these laptops (including the Razer) are soo expensive and the speakers are soo bad (same for the webcam …). Quite unaccettable given their prices. Many thanks.
private reviewer
April 8, 2021 at 9:56 pm
Razer keeps putting the ribbon for the screen on that stupid position without reinforcement. It INEVITABLY breaks stopping the signal to the screen or the camera. The chassis is very sensitive to flex over time, especially in the screen bezels, the keyboard still bulges over time due to the high temperature delta on the chassis during gaming. The PSU and battery suppliers are the same, so bloating and PSU catastrophic failure are a certainty not a possibility, it's a matter of when, not if. With that said, the perf/peice on offer is absurd and the QC and build quality do not correspond to the price. And that's before mentioning the CS in Europe which is completely flooded and clearly under cost saving measures. I think if these sites want to be respected as reviewers of laptops they should definitely contact laptop repair stores on record. A store can easily tell the writer that Razer laptops have severe build and design issues that make it a very unreliable product/brand. It's a shame, the KB lighting and look are really top, unfortunately it's a clear case of form over function. Real shame!
Su
June 27, 2021 at 6:24 am
I’d like to ask you about your experience using a razer blade 15 as your daily driver if you don’t mind.
I found a blade 15 advanced 2080s (same model reviewed here) on sale for 2300 CAD (about 1900 usd) last month so I immediately snagged it since it still goes for like 4300 brand new on Amazon. However I failed to do all the necessary research on it since I've recently discovered the thousands of complaints on Reddit/ razer about razer’s customer support and QC with a whole host of issues reported from screen failures and fans melting (admittedly rare) to the seemingly inevitable battery swelling which is reported by 3-5 users a week on the sub. Unfortunately, my return period has expired.
I plan on using mine for work, school and gaming and I intend to do some heavy work on it (Inventor/Solidworks, Comsol/Ansys, etc) and reliability is pretty important to me since I really don’t want it failing on me when I have important work to do and exams for example. I’m honestly so worried about this laptop’s potential longevity issues that I’m debating selling it lightly used. (should go for ~2200 lightly used on eBay) and buying something like the legion 5 pro since Lenovo is known for their customer service plus I can get a 3 year warranty with home repair on the Lenovo site if I feel like it.
I absolutely love the blade’s build and form factor and it’s definitely more daily drivable than the L5P which is both bigger and heavier however I honestly wouldn’t mind the extra pound and slightly less room in my bag if the difference in reliability is significant enough..
Do you think it’s worth losing about 300-400 CAD in taxes and stuff and getting a more “reliable” computer that doesn’t feel like a ticking time bomb or am I overreacting and the blade 15 shouldn’t encounter any issues other than battery ones which should be fixable with a quick manual battery swap? (I’m currently only using mine with intel turbo boost off and on a cooling stand so temps don’t get too intense so the battery doesn’t start showing any signs of wear in case I do decide to sell it). I want this thing to last me for 4 years at the very least since I probably won’t be able to comfortably buy something in this price range again till then.
Also I’m considering removing the battery and just running off the power brick for the next couple of weeks since I’m mostly using it at home nowadays and then having a system where I plug the battery in when I’m out and about and remove it during weekends for example when I might just use the computer at home. Would that be a good plan to increase the lifetime of the battery or would I just be risking damaging the battery connector with the constant plugging and unplugging? Also when you use yours do you just leave it plugged it even at 100% charge or do you let it discharge to about 20% before plugging it in again?
Sorry for asking a lot of questions and for the long post, I’m just really worried I made a bad investment and I’ll “regret it” as people on Reddit seem to believe..
Derek Sullivan
June 27, 2021 at 11:24 pm
I've had my 2019 model since early 2019 and haven't had any problem with battery swelling. Unless you see some symptoms, I wouldn't worry too much about it. If it was that widespread, I think the media would have covered it more by now. I'm not saying it's not happing – just that it's probably rare. Really though, if you type in "battery swelling ______" and fill in the blank with a manufacturer, I'm sure you'll find a lot of posts and pictures. All Li-ion batteries are prone to swelling.
I don't do anything special with charging – it's plugged in most of the time and I unplug it when I take in on the go. Hope this helps