Dell XPS 15 9560 review – Core i7 CPU, 1050 GPU and UHD screen

45 Comments

  1. Lance

    March 6, 2017 at 4:15 am

    Good review, thanks.
    You say the keyboard is horrible. I've been having repeated characters with mine, something like 1/10 times writing something like 'same' I'll get 'samme', is that anything you noticed?

    • Douglas Black

      March 6, 2017 at 4:17 am

      Hi Lance,

      I've never experienced anything like that. Is it always the same key? You could try taking the caps off and cleaning it. If not, it sounds like you should have it serviced

      • Lance

        March 6, 2017 at 10:09 am

        I've had a keyboard replacement and then a mb replacement. It seems to primarily be I,m,n,c,r characters. But usually in some sequence. Other people are having it too. Some suggest it's the way we type, but I've never had a keyboard like this before.
        There's a couple of threads on Reddit about it

        https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/5xm38e/xps_9560_keyboard_stil_repeating_after_replaced/

      • Same problem in past

        May 13, 2018 at 7:37 pm

        Oh. This used to happen a lot, along with wireless not reenabling itself after sleep.

        Both seemed to have been resolved months ago without my noticing. Can't remember a single issue in a long while.

        I've been on top of updates and also use their tb16 thunderbolt dock since March which has a bunch of firmware that may or may not affect things.

        Hopefully yours has or will be resolved soon.

  2. Tom

    March 6, 2017 at 4:57 am

    Good review,

    I can't describe how frustrating the XPS 15 series have been. They're so close to perfection but Dell consistently has (the same) issues on product release. Combined with questionable QC (improper heatsink contact… still) and horrific customer service (you're right, pay for the premium service or you will regret it). It's just annoying for what should be a premium product. It should not just be good, it should be exceedingly good in every aspect.

    I'm in the same boat as you, It's still the best Windows laptop for my use case by a country mile.

    • Douglas Black

      March 6, 2017 at 4:59 am

      Agreed. I will give the Yoga 720 a very good look on release

      • Tom

        March 6, 2017 at 5:36 am

        Aesthetically I think the Yoga 720 looks.. bad.

        It'll almost be a shame if it's good in every other regard. No excuse not to get it.

        T

  3. Kyle

    March 6, 2017 at 5:08 am

    Good review. But I believe the new thinkpad P51 is directly comparable to the XPS 15, not the thinkpad t470p as it is only 14" and doesn't pack a dGPU. As a matter of fact, I don't recommend the t470p at all as it has serious cooling and power draw issues, resulting in an abysmal battery life and performance, not to mention heavier weight and lower quality materials used on the chassis compared with other thinkpad X,T and P series released in 2017. If you're looking for a quad-core ultrabook with no need for dGPU, look into Dell Latitude 14,15 5000 series (kaby lake – e5480,e5580) with the largest capacity battery configuration. Holiday discounts for these two laptops go up to 35%.

    Dell XPS 15 9560 vs Lenovo Thinkpad P51

    I don't own a desktop or a tablet so a laptop is my main and only device. Thus, it needs to be both portable and powerful, with battery life of at least 10 hours.
    config preference: fhd non-touch, 97/90wh battery, i7/xeon
    anti-4k reasoning: scaling issues, 25-30% shorter battery life, reflective display on the xps, poor color accuracy and brightness with pwm flickering on the P51 (although it does come with an aes wacom pen)

    similarities: kaby lake quad core, 4GB VRAM GPUs of similar caliber, ddr4-2400 dual channel slots, m.2-2280 pcie 3.0 x4 nvme ssd slots, 15.6" fhd non-touch matte IPS displays, 1x usb type-c 3.1 gen-2 thunderbolt-3, large batteries, realistic 10hrs battery life, under 2.6kg, better than average build quality, precision touchpads, fingerprint sensors & IR cameras for windows hello sign-in, better services than other lines of laptops from same/different manufacturers

    respective pros & cons (not in any order of importance)
    XPS 15 pros:
    1) better gpu performance with pascal GTX 1050 4GB vs Quadro M2200M 4GB on the P51 (better gaming)
    2) slimmer bezels = smaller footprint
    3) lighter (2kg vs 2.6kg)
    4) slimmer (20mm vs 30mm)
    5) slighly better battery life (97wh vs 90wh)
    6) better display (brightness:350nits/contrast:1500:1/color gamut:98% sRGB,63% adobeRGB)
    7) slightly better internal dac chip and much better speakers
    8) 5-level battery level indicator lights vs tiny 1 on the P51 on the back (very hard to see)

    XPS 15 cons:
    1) terrible keyboard (in terms of travel, actuation force and layout)
    2) 2 lane thunderbolt-3 vs 4 on the p51 (currently using GTX 1080 eGPU and will definitely use a thunderbolt-3 NAS and a portable pcie-nvme ssd when it comes out)
    3) chin-cam (lots of conferences and skyping to do)
    4) slow display response times, a.k.a the 'ghosting issue' (plays mostly fps games)
    5) quality-control & stability issues, both hardware and software wise e.g. coil whine, defective screen, uneven clickpad, broken hinge, unrecognized sd-card, buggy drivers on many, many components
    P51 pros:
    1) business grade durability (possibly the best in the market at this price point) with 'MIL-STD 810G' certification and engineering with great attention to detail & ergonomics
    2) better cooling & lower power consumption = less throttling under sustained load
    3) easily user-replaceable/upgradable parts + removable battery (e.g. three batteries = 30hrs battery life)
    4) better keyboard (lots of typing to do)
    5) trackpoint – useful when the touchpad occasionally fails me
    6) touchpad with two rows of dedicated left/right/middle buttons vs clickpad on the xps
    7) hinges can open 185 degrees vs 130 degrees on the xps
    8) one hand openable lid
    9) 4x ram slots = max 64GB ram vs 2x on the xps
    10) don't have to compromise between battery life and extra drives 2x m.2-2280 pcie-nvme slots + 1x 2.5" 7mm drive bay + 90wh battery vs 1x nvme slot + 97wh battery or 1x nvme slot + 1x 2.5" 7mm drive bay + 57wh battery
    11) great i/o ports selection – 1x usb type-c 3.1 gen-2 thunderbolt-3, 4x usb type-a 3.0, 1x hdmi 1.4, 1x minidisplayport 1.2, 1x rj-45, 1x 3.5mm audio combo, 1x sdxc uhs-2 sd-card reader, 1x smartcard, 1x expresscard 34mm (can buy a 2x usb type-a 3.0 ports adapter card should you need more usb ports), 1x thinkpad dockingstation port, 1x kensington lock vs 1x usb type-c 3.1 gen-2 thunderbolt-3, 2x usb type-a 3.0, 1x hdmi 1.4, 1x kensington lock, 1x 3.5mm audio combo, 1x sdxc uhs-1 sd-card reader
    12) optional pantone color-calibration sensor
    13) array of 'business security features' – win10pro bitlocker, opal ssd, computrace tpm, vpro, expresscard, smartcard etc (although definitely vulnerable to determined criminals/organization/feds/agencies)
    13) optional WWAN LTE modem
    14) better wifi stability & performance (intel wireless-ac 8265 vs killer wireless-ac 1535)
    15) has gigabit-ethernet
    16) sd-card reader is uhs-2 vs uhs-1 on the xps, meaning the read/write speeds are 2x<
    17) very silent fans compared to the xps during load
    18) better cpu performance with selection of i7-7700hq/i7-7820hq/xeon e3-1505-v6(i7-7820hk equivalent)/xeon e3-1535-v6(i7-7920hq equivalent) vs i3-7100h with no dGPU/i5-7300hq/i7-7700hq on the xps
    19) customizable hardware configuration during purchase vs no customization on the xps
    20) can buy and use with thinkpad docking stations

    P51 Cons:
    1) noticeably worse screen (brightness:250nits/contrast:700:1/color gamut:58% sRGB,37% adobeRGB)
    2) noticeably heavier unit
    3) keyboard backlight bleed
    4) dreadful speakers
    5) larger and heavier default charger
    6) although not as many as on the xps, minor stability issues do exist but are mostly fixed within 3 months with bios updates

    negligible factors:
    1) bezels – simply don't understand all the hype with thin bezzels. Samsung&LG laptops had thin bezzels for a decade. Thinkpad P51 makes good use of extra bezzels as keybaord keys are big, key space is wide, and they've managed to put two rows of dedicated click buttons, along with (though disappointing)front-facing speakers. Plus I've always found thick bottom and side bezels to be very useful when opening the lid and when adjusting display angles.
    2) aesthetic appearance

    *Note: For the XPS 15 9560 the non-touch fhd ips-display with 97wh battery option is only available in the US and some selected countries, in only one configuration – i7/16GB-memory/512GB-ssd(1750USD). However, I'd rather buy either the i5 or lowest i7 configuration at the official dell US website, then swap out the 2.5" hard drive and 57wh battery with a 97wh battery through either trade/backorder/ebay.
    Also, the Thinpad P51 battery is rated 90wh but comes with either 90, 93 or 96 according to the battery manufacturer. So if you're lucky, you get the big one.

    approximate cheapest total price possible for similar configs purchased within the US market and directly imported from overseas:
    1) XPS 15 9560: i7-6700hq cpu/gtx1060 gpu/fhd non-touch display/97wh battery/16GB memory/512GB ssd/backlit keyboard/fingerprint reader = i7/1060/fhd/8GB/256GB(1450USD – 250USD holiday discount = 1200USD) + 97wh battery(110USD) + used/holiday sale Samsung sm961/960 pro 512GB ssd(280USD) + used/holiday sale 16GB ddr4-2400 so-dimm g-skills/crucial memory(85USD) – 8GB stock memory (likely samsung/sk-hynix ram) resell(60USD) – 256 stock ssd (likely either samsung pm961/toshiba/lite-on) resell(140USD) – 2.5" hdd and caddy with 57wh battery resell (90USD) = total 1385USD for buyers in the US
    1200USD + 25% approx import tax + shipping(120USD) + all other parts = total 1805USD for international buyers

    2) Thinkpad P51: i7-6700hq cpu/quadro m2200m gpu/fhd non-touch/90wh battery/16gb memory/512gb ssd/backlit keyboard/fingerprint reader/expresscard slot/smartcard reader = i7/m2200m/fhd/8GB/512GB 7200rpm hdd(1650USD x 57/100(43% holiday discount) = 950USD) + used/holiday sale Samsung sm961/960 pro 512GB ssd(280USD) + used/holiday sale 16GB ddr4-2400 so-dimm g-skills/crucial memory(85USD) – 8GB stock memory (likely samsung/sk-hynix ram) resell(60USD) – 512GB stock hdd resell(25USD) = total 1230USD for buyers in the US
    950USD + 25% approx import tax + shipping(120USD) + all other parts = total 1587.5USD for international buyers

    My pick is the P51, mainly because of the much superior build quality, ergonomics, removable battery and the incredible percentage-based price drop during the holidays.

    Obviously they're quite similar yet very different machines. With the right choices however, users can purchase either at a very affordable price.

    Three other big refreshes are around the corner in mid 2017 as well: HP ZBook 15(15",m2000m,2.5kg,96wh), Asus Zenbook Pro UX501VW(15",960m,2.2kg,96wh) and Dell Precision 17 5000 – 7510(15",m2000m,2.6kg,99wh). The ux501 is even rumored to pack a 1060, which would potentially put it on par with high-end lightweight gaming laptops such as the Razer Blade 14(14",1060,1.8kg,75wh), Gigabyte Aero 14(14",1060,1.8kg,94wh) and the Aorus X3-V7(14",1060,1.9kg,94wh). Of course, if all you need is a 1060 card in a slim and light body and don't need more than 3 hours of battery life, then the MSI GS43VR and GS63VR should be your top budget picks.

    • Douglas Black

      March 6, 2017 at 5:17 am

      Wow Kyle, thanks for that in depth comment! For me I'm not willing to go over 4.5 lbs

      • Kyle

        March 6, 2017 at 5:47 am

        Well for one thing, I live in remote Asia and in here, any electronics manufacturer services are terrible and overpriced. But with business laptops I never need to opt for any warranties, other than the default 1-year-depot. If something breaks by some miracle, I can order parts from china which arrives in 2 days.

        The build quality alone for those workstations are totally worth it. Before last year, I always thought thinkpads denting the floor and breaking doors was a big bluff. Until I got my P50, which slipped from my lap one sleepy night and made a crater on the floor. Made my landlord pretty mad haha.

    • Kyle

      March 6, 2017 at 5:33 am

      Okay, I know it looks real long and boring but in my defense, the comment system ate indentations and spaces.

    • KurtB

      March 8, 2017 at 12:21 am

      Kyle, is it possible you're talking about the Lenovo P50? Because the P51 isn't released yet…

      I really can't wait till the P51 is reviewed. My finger is already floating above the 'Buy me' button of the XPS 15 9560, but all the issues I'm reading is holding me. For now, the only two announced devices that can persuade me away from the XPS are maybe the Lenovo 720 and possibily the Lenovo P51. But I can't keep waiting. Really a shame that reviewers aren't getting their review devices way before the release…

      • Douglas Black

        March 8, 2017 at 12:27 am

        The p51 would be great if it had a smaller footprint/bezels and a centered keyboard

  4. Yahtadi

    March 7, 2017 at 12:39 pm

    Nice review as always, one thing i really wanted to know. Please answer anyone

    This kind of laptop use 2 internal fans for cooling right? If i go to this laptop with i3 and no dGPu configuration, how many fans will stay? 1 or 2? if 1, the mainboard will be different with the 2 fans right? whats the rest? I mean, 1 fans and the bigger mainboard that replacing the other fans's place, whatd component that be? another M.2 SSD slot?

    Thanks, any answer would satisfy my years thirsty of this question

    • Douglas Black

      March 7, 2017 at 7:41 pm

      That's a very good question. I've never seen anyone review the i3 version. The precision allows the i5 without a GPU as well. I'd guess that it would be a different board and heatsink design.

  5. Bryant

    March 10, 2017 at 12:08 am

    Where's your article about what you had to do to get the i7 and GPU to not throttle themselves? I'm having that issue with mine pretty badly.

    • Douglas Black

      March 10, 2017 at 12:15 am

      Bryant,

      I've solved it in mine by changing Nvidia setting "pre-rendered frames" to 2 and padding *only* the VRM chokes to the case bottom. I haven't written the article yet because I'm still trying to confirm the exact problem and ensure that it's a reliable method.

      • Bryant

        March 10, 2017 at 12:16 am

        Cool thank you very much. I'll keep an eye out for the article.

  6. Fabio

    March 11, 2017 at 10:59 am

    I'm really interested in this machine but all those flows that might be present in such a premium machine make me question if it's good or not. I'm interested also in the new HP Spectre X360 15, that is a bit cheaper with specs almost on par with this that is better on some aspects (keyboard, webcam in the right place but still with small bezels, touchscreen with a pen), but it has a low power processors. Can't HP and Dell merge their products in a perfect one?

    However, are the 16 GB of ram one in one stick with an internal slot free or not?

    • Douglas Black

      March 11, 2017 at 11:01 am

      The memory will be 8×2 paired. They told me it would be 1×16, so I complained and got 100 USD back

      • Fabio

        March 12, 2017 at 9:51 am

        Too bad, just a single 16 GB would be great for upgrades. Thank you!

  7. Mastafu

    March 17, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    Great review, good to hear about coil whine. To bad that such expensive laptop still has so silly issues with keyboard and camera.
    As to best possible option, how about ASUS Zenbook Pro UX550. It will be great option with even better GTX in it.

  8. Ryan

    May 29, 2017 at 12:10 pm

    Nice review
    I also have a XPS15 9560 with i7, UHD, 16G and 1TB SSD,and the only problem I am facing to is the overheat. I can't play Cs:go because the cpu frequency will be as low as 0.8Ghz or something in just few minutes. I can't enjoy LOL with friends because it could face the same problem. Even when I am working with Autodest Inventor 2017, with the ray tracing function on, it happens too!
    I mean, why should I buy an i7 and 1050 with the performance I cannot fully use? When this laptop gets overheat, it's performance is at an even lower level than my old Dell latitude e6440 with i5 4200.
    I heard that Dell has changed the EC software for XPS15 9550 by publishing a newer BIOS update last year, which helps 9550 totally get away from overheat without any DIY or CPU voltage configure.
    I just hope this happen to my 9560 very soon.
    I bought this laptop this Feb. it's should be a great system, but it has failed me so far.

  9. Jurgen

    May 30, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    Great reviews by the readers. Completely different to the above review by D. Black (the site owner?). I too fell into the trap and bought it. XPS15 9560, UHD 4K, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD.

    It is what others say. A half-product. There are many, many bugs and defekts. Too many for the laptop with this name, Dell, to be acceptable. Very good screen, nice design, solid aluminium housing. That is all.

    Despite all the specs it doesn't perform, it gets hot, it is bizarre (keyboard) to use, the pad is not slick and easy to glide the fingers on, contrary to what D. Black says above, the plastic top is supposedly of carbon, but it strongly attracts the sweat and the grease, and it is almost impossible to clean it off. Cooling fan is noisy although they all say it is quiet, and it does nothing to cool the laptop. What slows down the heat is the thick aluminium plate between you and the processors. Put your hand at the heat vent and you'll see what I mean. Your hand will get burned with the heat!

    I will return mine too. Asus has a nicer and better model, which is also 2 years old now, but still better. A new version is coming out soon so I'll wait for it. Dell is just not good, despite the name and the fame. Deficient in every way. And I ahevn't even commented on the lack of the connections (USB, ethernet, everything)It is a disaster really…

  10. Tim

    July 1, 2017 at 7:32 pm

    FANTASTIC review, thanks! Your honesty and thoroughness are much appreciated. I got just over 2 years from my 9550 (including UHD touchscreen), and while I loved it, the bugs were frustrating. I replaced the modem, the hard drive, the keyboard, and the inner receptacle for the AC adapter. I should have replaced the audio jack too, and the flickering screen issues never went away. Still, I didn't have to look around long to decide that the only thing out there I saw that was even close to what I wanted was the 9560. LOL

    So I bought the maxed-out version (i7, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, etc., although I passed on the fingerprint scanner), and I have to say, I'm loving it. Absolutely worth the upgrade from the 9550, imo. Everything about it feels like what I wish the 9550 had been. No hesitation,, my favorite computer yet — which I say while also completely agreeing with everything you said. The Toshiba hard drive is stupid. I wish they'd just offered an option to pay more for the Samsung, which I may do anyway…but again, I'm not currently feeling the need. I think you're right about Dell being afraid of the possibility of their own perfection — TB3 is a real selling point, but hardwiring TB2 speeds is a buzzkill.

    But here in the real world, every computer I've ever owned has called for some kind of compromise. In this case, the tradeoffs are completely worth it to me. We'll see what happens if it starts bugging out, but so far, I'm genuinely impressed by the step up. My 9550 is just back from the shop (the last time I'll ever repair it), and even though they look identical on the outside, both even with brand new keyboards, I can immediately tell which one is which is by the feel of the performance.

    Perfection would be nice, sure, and it's exasperating that some of Dell's fumbles could so easily have been avoided. But to me this was an easy call, even coming from a 2.5 yr old 9550. ESPECIALLY coming from the 9550.

    • Douglas Black

      July 1, 2017 at 8:37 pm

      Appreciate the kind words, Timothy. I myself have comeback to the XPS 15 after trying the Yoga 720, gigabyte aero 15, and macbook pro 15. This time, though, I went to a microsoft store to buy and inspect it in person for issues :)

  11. David K.

    July 30, 2017 at 11:44 am

    My wife and I were about to buy 2 of the XPS 15 16Gb of ram 1tb ssd yesterday… so, after reading some issues with the battery folks were having with this and the 9550 I thought before I bought a $2400 notebook I want to know what the replacement cost of the 97 watt battery was… and I have to say, I was floored…. According to both models web pages on Dell under accessories they state the battery is no longer Available… then I went to amazon… Product Discontinued… What the heck do you do with a $2500 Laptop when the battery is dead and not available anywhere… It becomes a $2500 anchor for you next boat… I Cancelled orders for 2 of the machines immediately…. That is CRAZY that Dell has discontinued selling the replacement batteries.. I'm sure glad I found out before we took delivery.. By the way, the Battery is Not Warrantied by Dell Either so your screwed.

  12. N0name

    July 31, 2017 at 1:05 pm

    Question regarding noise.
    I do own XPS 15 9530 (UHD + 512GB SSD + i7) and did returned XPS 9550 (UHD + 512 GB SSD + i7) due to noise (and other issues).

    Problem that I had with 9550:

    When running on battery everything was fine, fans did spin down and turned off on 1-5% (variable) CPU utilization, but when connected to AC, at same 1-5% CPU load (aka. only desktop + OS background apps), fans did kick in to around 1k-2k RPM making it audible. This issue is not present in my old 9530 unit and fan profile behave exactly same on battery and AC.

    Question:
    Does fans in 9560 behave on AC and battery same or do they have problem like described above?

    Reason why this is important for me is that I do work usually in night (programmer) and having audible noise is both distracting and irritating (of course I do talk about light use cases).

  13. amir meamarpour

    November 10, 2017 at 12:10 pm

    hello guys, it is possible to attach a gtx1080 to this laptop ???

    • Douglas Black

      November 10, 2017 at 7:48 pm

      Sure, but anything faster than a 1060 will be a waste of money

      • amir meamarpour

        November 11, 2017 at 12:53 pm

        so you mean that buying a laptop equipped with GTX1070 or 1080 is better than a laptop equipped with GTX1050 and use a graphic box for it ??

      • Douglas Black

        November 11, 2017 at 1:04 pm

        No, I mean a graphics box with a card better than a 1060 is a waste of money. A graphics box (with TB3) is not worth it for any laptop with a 1060 or better, and even in some situations not as good as a 1050ti. Check out the benchmarks at this comparison I did for notebookcheck here: notebookcheck.net/Razer-Core-Benchmarks-Analysis-and-Compatibility-Is-it-Worth-it.213526.0.html

  14. Michael

    November 18, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    Hi Andrei, I'd really appreciate help deciding which laptop to buy. I currently have a budget i3 Asus as my travel laptop, it's the second one I've had but both have slowed down hugely or had big issues for me at some point so I am bit wary of Asus, but they have some of the best choices on the market still and it was probably just bad luck. My primary purpose is travel and work, I don't do video editing, may do some light gaming. I'm considering between:

    Asus Zenbook 430 (14" 1.25kg i5 256GB SSD 8GB RAM) £850
    Asus Zenbook 530 (15" 1.63kg i7 512GB SSD 8GB RAM) £999
    Asus Zenbook 490 (14" 1.30kg i5 256GB SSD 8GB RAM) £999 (from £1400) for Black Friday.
    Dell XPS 15 9560 (15" 2.00kg i7 512GB SSD 16GB RAM FHD Non-touch) £1235 refurbished.

    I can't tell if it'd bother me to switch to a smaller 14" screen and smaller keyboard. 13" felt too small for me when I tried in a shop.

    I've somewhat ruled out the 430 as I'd like to have the 512GB SSD for another £150, even though it seems like a great model. 490 I thought had 512GB but the one on sale only has 256GB unfortunately. Or maybe I'm valuing the extra space too much considering cloud storage is easy.

    The XPS 15 seems like the best overall (apart from the webcam and weight) but is of course more expensive and refurbished. I've never bought a refurb before, are they generally fine?

    Is it worth going for the XPS 15 or would I be fine with the Zenbook 530?

    Are there any quirks of each individual model I should be aware of that might deter me?

    Thanks,
    Michael :)

    • Andrei Girbea

      November 20, 2017 at 5:47 am

      I'd say no. The XPS 9560 is a great laptop, but from what you're saying you're not going to need the quad-core HQ processor or that dedicated graphics. I'd go with the Zenbook 530, preferably a version with Nvidia graphics if available, for those moments when you'll want to play your games. The only major drawback you should consider is the fact that the RAM is not upgradeable, 8 GB are perhaps enough right now, but might not be down the line with multitaksing.