MSI GS63VR Stealth Pro review – Nvidia GTX 1060 graphics in a compact 15-incher


  1. David

    September 21, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    Any new info on the Best Buy related screens?

    • Derek Sullivan

      September 21, 2016 at 10:51 pm

      Not from me but if anyone gets one, I’d like to hear what screen model they have and what they think of it.

      • Giancarlo Benedetto

        September 22, 2016 at 3:06 pm

        Hi I have the best buy version… Is exactly the same as reviewed.. LP156WF6-SPK1… Is not great but is enough…

      • Francisco Ortiz

        January 5, 2017 at 5:00 pm

        I bought this same version cause i didnt look into it thinking as the gs60 series that all panels were the same….sucks i didnt..i live abroad and bought it at the BB…is it possible for u to try and better the colors with you spyder pro and the settings in the display controlpanel and let us know what setting u get…i also have the GS60 and have been playing around with this and found that tweaking the color settings a bit made a huge improvement, never will be like the IPS Lg or GS60 Samsung but definitely much better…maybe some day ill go crazy and swap it for the better lg panel but for now this will do as i plan on upgrading to a 512gb nvme and 32gb ram, alreayd swapped out the hdd for a 1tb ssd

      • Derek Sullivan

        January 5, 2017 at 5:16 pm

        There's no way to make it better. It's only capable of putting out the mediocre colors that it has. Calibration only makes the colors as true to their assignment – it doesn't add color.

        Have you checked to see if the connectors are the same on your GS60? If so, it's very possible you can swap that very panel you already have. Do a little homework on panellook and see if they are cross compatible first. Also, if you take the plunge, do yourself a favor and but a replacement bezel beforehand because it's really easy to break the little plastic clips.

        Sorry you got burned. The forums are full of people in your same situation. Unfortunately there's no way to tell for sure what models have what screens, but it appears that the Best Buy models are all low gamut screens.

      • Ehsan

        January 16, 2018 at 12:33 am

        I got mine 3 days ago (GS63 7rd 1050) from an online retailer named JD in China and screen model is LGD046F LP156WF6-SPB1, 72% NTSC IPS screen (1080). The colors and look pretty nice, viewing angles are perfect, but the screen is not bright enough. The other good things to mention are that first it has a higher capacity battery (65Wh) and second comes with a much smaller charger (135w).
        If you care about windows language do not buy from China since it comes with a single language pack (Chinese) and I had to delete it and install my university windows (education version).

    • josh jewell

      September 28, 2016 at 3:14 am

      This review is for the model from best buy. I got one from and the screen is a sdc324c samsung ips. Which is way better.

      • Derek Sullivan

        September 28, 2016 at 8:36 am

        Thank you for sharing that. That’s the same panel from the old GS60, which is actually a really nice one, imo.

      • Scott Brown

        March 24, 2017 at 5:59 am

        Which model? I am trying to figure out which one has this monitor. Right now I have the MSI Stealth Pro GS63VR230 in my cart waiting to buy. Which I am trying to do this weekend. Hopefully have it in a few weeks as not many company's ship to bases outside of the US.

  2. Isaac

    September 22, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    Hey awesome review! I’ve been almost clicking the pay now button on this laptop for weeks haha. So would you recommend the 4k screen over the 1080p if I was to use it mainly for gaming, watching movies, web browsing and office work? Is the only disadvantage of the 4k screen the battery life and extra cost or are there a lot of scaling issues as well which makes it hard to see anything? Thanks!

    • Derek Sullivan

      September 23, 2016 at 11:55 am

      I honestly wouldn’t recommend the 4k screen on this one. On the 17″ version I give it a pass because it’s bright, full gamut and larger so the scaling is slightly more tolerable. But on the 15″ version, those three things aren’t the case and the battery life is pretty pitiful. The FHD screen has crummy colors though. You don’t notice it after using it a while but when you look at your phone or tablet in comparison, it’s a very noticeable difference.

      I’m still waiting on confirmation that the other FHD models might have better colors. Best Buy sells the -001 model, which is the one I reviewed. Others on Youtube have mentioned that their screens have 100% sRGB. If that’s the case, I’d go for those models but I’d still like to see someone confirm the actual panel part number.

      • Aleksander Lyse

        September 30, 2016 at 6:32 am

        Im a bit confused about your reply here. In the article you are saying go the the 4K version, but here you wont recommend the 4K screen.

        I do have a small dilemma. The store accidentally sent me the FHD and the 4K version by a mistake, and I have to make a choice. I can send one of them back and keep the other one by not paying more for whatever I choose.

        Should I keep the 4K version or the FHD version (the FHD version got the LG panel).

      • Derek Sullivan

        September 30, 2016 at 7:27 am

        If you can deal with the diminished colors, you should probably keep the FHD model. The between scaling and battery life, you’ll probably be happier in the long run. I only would choose the 4k model based on the colors and the crispness of the image, but that’s just because it’s a pet peeve of mine. Really just go with what you think you can tolerate looking at for a few years. IT’s a good thing to have both in front of you to make an informed decision. I personally found both not to my liking though. Honestly, if there was a way to identify a model with a Samsung panel, I would have gone with that one.

  3. Stephane

    September 26, 2016 at 5:42 am


    I myself got the 4k version in August.
    I can confrim everything in this great review.

    Some hints on the slow SD card> disabel the Xboost fomr the msi software.
    I though tI wa sunlucky and might need ot have the laptop replace as it was soooo solow for fil transfer.
    I disabled the x turbo boost fo the disk and bang it worked great.

    Also there is an issue with the Nahimic software and you need to diable it for skype for businees to work ( regular skyped works fine, but everyone complains a my low volume when I speak, I need to tune it better).

    The 4k screen is great. And is not glossy.

    The only down side, I had to pay 2500 euro to get it ( compared to 1500euro I paid the 4k version of the GS60 that I ended up returning), but the dell xps 15 was at 2400 euro here anyway.

    And Size!!! The GS63 is smaller than the GS60.. significantly smaller.

  4. mystiq

    September 28, 2016 at 9:55 am

    hello, would you mind to review asus ROG STRIX GL502VS GTX1070 please ?

    • Derek Sullivan

      September 28, 2016 at 10:18 am

      Andrei usually reviews the Asus models. I don’t know if he has plans for that one, but I’ll ask.

    • Andrei Girbea

      September 28, 2016 at 3:13 pm

      I can’t promise, the GL502VS is not yet available over here and I don’t know if I can get a sample.

      • mystiq

        September 30, 2016 at 9:29 am

        i see, i m looking forward to see the review on the asus STRIX GL502VS on this site,

        thanks in advance

  5. Devin

    September 29, 2016 at 10:40 am

    I guess they reserve a USB 2.0 port to avoid the conflict between USB 3.0 and 2.4G wireless mice.

    It may also lead to a better connectivity for 2.4G WiFi.

    • Andrei Girbea

      September 30, 2016 at 4:21 am

      It’s rather for backwards compatibility with older peripherals that might not work best with USB 3.0 . Those interferences can be resolved with shielding and other methods nowadays, I don’t think they should be a problem on a late-2016 laptop, at least in theory.

  6. Niels Woisin

    September 30, 2016 at 4:59 am

    The Warranty sticker is also meaningless in the EU and can be removed without loosing your warranty.

  7. Ryan

    September 30, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    If you look at the specs on MSI US website, the Best Buy version which is 001 is not even stated as IPS like the other models. It is “eDP Vivid Color 94%” which practically means the most horrible panel on the market. It also replaces the Killer wireless with Intel.
    I’m curious why this review isn’t listed on the Reviews page.

    • Derek Sullivan

      October 1, 2016 at 8:13 am

      Yeah, now that I’ve finally gotten some reliable sources on the panels for the other models, I’ll update the post. I don’t usually go straight from their spec sheet because they commonly have errors(4 speakers for example). I’m not even sure what Vivid 94% means because nothing on this panel is 94%, even on the actual spec sheet for the panel. It is still IPS though.

      I’ve actually seen the “better” IPS panel before and it is indeed a big improvement over the -001 model. I’ve seen it on other models, just not this one. In that case I would increase my score to 4 out of 5.

      What reviews page are you referring to?

      • Ryan

        October 1, 2016 at 8:20 am
        Couldn’t see this article over here.

      • Derek Sullivan

        October 1, 2016 at 8:36 am

        Hmm, that’s strange – I thought it was on there already. Andrei usually handles that page so I’ll ask him.

    • Francisco Ortiz

      January 6, 2017 at 5:23 pm

      I actually dont mind intel ive had no issues with any of the intel stuff wheras one of my previous laptops had a kiler wifi card which gave me a subpar experience with driver sand signal drops

  8. Ryan

    October 1, 2016 at 3:27 am

    The difference between a $1550 model and a $1800 model would not be only 128GB of storage.
    The panel and the wireless adapter are different as well. Best Buy’s 001 model features low quality panel and misses Killer wireless for cost down.
    I’ve seen people posting the specs of their regular $1800 model with LGD046F, which is an average quality IPS panel commonly used for 15″ laptops.
    As the model tested is a Best Buy special version, which is different from all other suppliers, it should probably be pointed out at the beginning.

    • Derek Sullivan

      October 1, 2016 at 8:35 am

      I added a small bite at the beginning and some more coverage in the screen section. Thanks!

      • Ryan

        October 1, 2016 at 9:06 am

        Cheers. I actually bought the GS73 thanks to your review.
        I found the coil whine quite annoying at night. Luckily it can be turn down by disabling CPU C State. Although probably lose some battery life but it was totally worth it. I guess the thin aluminum case with plenty of vent holes might leak more coil whine noise than the other better sealed plastic model such as GL702.

      • Derek Sullivan

        October 1, 2016 at 2:05 pm

        I think I’ve tested so many laptops with this CPU, I’m beginning to tolerate it really well. In this model I didn’t find it as annoying on my lap, but I definitely noticed it when it was a few feet away. Different positions definitely affect the pitch and yes I bet those holes don’t help at all. I really hope the Kaby Lake quad core is better.

        What are you using to disable C states?

      • Ryan

        October 1, 2016 at 6:51 pm

        There is an option in BIOS

    • Aleksander Lyse

      October 3, 2016 at 5:56 pm

      Just to make a note all middels i have seen being sold in Norway (probably Sweden and Denmark too) (full Hd version) got killer wifi, but the same panel as Best Buy 001 so beware :)

  9. Onigami

    October 2, 2016 at 9:35 am

    Hi Derek ! First of all thank you for your review , it made me buy this great laptop. But I have a noob question

    I want to replace the HDD with a 1tb SSD. Is there something I have to be careful with before buying or can I go with any 2″5 SATA III SSD ? Like the Samsung

    • Onigami

      October 2, 2016 at 9:37 am

      Like the Samsung 850 Pro 1tb

    • Derek Sullivan

      October 2, 2016 at 3:22 pm

      Pretty much all ssd are thin enough to fit. I have an 840 evo in mine. 9mm is the max thickness I believe.

      • Andrei Girbea

        October 2, 2016 at 6:07 pm

        Just a heads up, there are a few laptops that can only fit 7 mm 2.5″ SSDs. Not the case here, but worth adding, as those won’t be able to fit a 9 mm drive.

      • Onigami

        October 2, 2016 at 8:58 pm

        And all the cables I need are already in the laptop ?

      • Derek Sullivan

        October 3, 2016 at 6:39 pm

        If you mean power cable then yes, that’s all that comes with it

  10. Devin

    October 7, 2016 at 7:26 am

    I finally purchase a 016CN model, which costs me $2100 (tax-included).

    This model comes with:
    Panel: LGD046F
    GPU: GTX1060-6G GDDR5
    RAM: 2x 8G Kingston DDR4-2400
    SSD: 256GB Toshiba M.2 NVME THNSN5256GPU7
    HDD: 1TB Seagate ST1000LM035
    Lan: Killer E2400
    Wi-Fi: Killer 1535

    Another guy’s 016CN comes with a 256G SM951 and an 1TB HGST, while all other components remain the same.

    Eh…Going to replace the HDD by a Sandisk Ultra II 960G. Note that: in China, the warranty will be avoided by breaking the sticker, and this is for GS series ONLY, which is a bad news for me.

    • Devin

      October 7, 2016 at 7:32 am

      Was going to buy a GS73, because it performs better. However, GS63 is already a heavy one (in my mind), and GS43VR is not lighter.

      Anyway, thank you for your review. The Heat and Battery life parts do help me a lot :)

  11. Ros

    October 19, 2016 at 3:04 pm

    Since the air intakes are on the top, can the laptop still be used for heavy loads (video editing premiere pro) with the lid closed?

    • Derek Sullivan

      November 3, 2016 at 9:37 am

      I did some minor testing with the lid closed and it added a few degrees to my temps. Everything still ran ok though. It wasn't anything more than 20 minutes though.

  12. manu

    November 6, 2016 at 1:28 pm

    I'm looking to buy this from Best buy, is it a bad choice? It's current on sale for 1499 at Best buy.

    • Derek Sullivan

      November 6, 2016 at 2:29 pm

      I'd say there's no harm in trying it out. Best buy has a really good return policy if you don't like it.

  13. Ryan

    November 6, 2016 at 2:32 pm

    Not a gamer at all but need something that will be good for editing GoPro videos. Was recommended this model. Would this be adequate?

    • Derek Sullivan

      November 6, 2016 at 4:05 pm

      Yeah, it should be fine for video editing. Just be cautious of the low gamut screen, if that's even a factor with the editing you plan to do.

      • Ryan

        November 6, 2016 at 5:29 pm

        I am just using it primarily for my GoPro stuff. Had a regular asus for it but it just can't handle it. A friend directed me to this model. Said it should have no issues at all with the graphics card and processor.

  14. James

    November 15, 2016 at 4:34 am

    Hi Derek! Thanks for a great article and for providing feedback regarding the different screen panels available for this model.
    Can you please confirm the contrast ratio, the lack of PWM as well as the matrix structure (RGBW or RGB, pentile or not) for the 4K screen?

    Thanks in advance,
    James A.

    • Derek Sullivan

      November 15, 2016 at 1:16 pm

      I only got 360:1 even though the spec sheet says it should be 800:1. The blacks were very bright on the unit I had, which threw off the readings. I'm not sure what the subpixel looks like up close but it's RGBW and there is no PWM.

      • James

        November 15, 2016 at 2:11 pm

        looks like the super low contrast rate will be a deal breaker for me. Unfortunately, the full hd panels look to be low quality as well. What a pitty, such a great looking notebook with such low quality screens.

  15. james

    November 20, 2016 at 5:16 pm

    can you update the naming of a screenshot where you compare 2 screens side by side?
    currently the name is "Screens – GS73 (left) and GS73 (Right)", but that is obviously not the case


  16. Josh P.

    November 20, 2016 at 11:15 pm

    hello Derek, I recently purchased this laptop a couple of days ago. I noticed it gets pretty hot during gaming sessions. I was just a bit curious if the temps i'm getting are fairly normal or should I be concerned? I've purchased a couple of games to test it out. I got overwatch which the CPU temp stays at about 70 to 80C depending if i'm in game or on a loading screen. I also recently purchased BF1 and have had a spike up to 87C while in game. Just curious if these high temps are safe or should I look for an alternative way to keep it cooler while in game.

    • Derek Sullivan

      November 21, 2016 at 12:56 am

      Those are pretty typical temps. The laptop is very thin and the gpu is powerful, so temps as high as 90 are to be expected when under heavy load.

  17. Jeffrey Baker

    December 5, 2016 at 10:20 am

    Can you please let me know the steps you took to use the razer core on the msi gs63vr? I currently have this laptop (best buy model), but I have heard mixed results on how the two work together.


    • Derek Sullivan

      December 5, 2016 at 10:39 am

      It was pretty much the same steps as if it were a razer blade. Maybe I just got lucky? I outlined my steps in the core review:

      • Jeffrey Baker

        December 5, 2016 at 10:40 am

        Thanks a lot, and great review. I will take a look. I plan on getting the Core in the next month or so here, and would be happy to report back if I had the same success.

  18. Miguel Pérez Borrajo

    December 9, 2016 at 11:57 am

    Hello Derek
    thanks for your article

    now, there is more choice that this moment, and I would like to ask you if you recommend ask a MSI with g-sync or with optimus.
    And 4k or FullHD, do I will notice the diference?
    I was thinking on this one
    MSI GT62VR 6RE-094XES Intel Core i7-6700HQ/16GB/1TB+256SSD/GTX1070/15.6

    thank you

    • Derek Sullivan

      December 9, 2016 at 1:31 pm

      I've never used the GT series so I cannot comment on them. I've heard good things from the users though. I only chose the GS series because of the size, so Gsync is not an option for me and I'm ok with that. I guess the question for you is, is size important enough to sway your decision? If not, I'd say go the GT route and enjoy the better video card and Gsync, at the same price points. As for 4k, if you don't do a lot of consumption and primarily use it for gaming, I'd stick with the FHD screen. It'll save money and a 120Hz screen with Gsync is going to look pretty amazing with a GTX 1070 driving it. I personally like the 4k screen, but I do all my work on this machine, not just gaming.

  19. James

    December 15, 2016 at 7:55 am

    Any updates on the keuboard flex? how is it compared to ge62vr?


    • Derek Sullivan

      December 15, 2016 at 8:00 am

      I was never able to improve it. I didn't have the laptop long though, so I wasn't able to put too much effort into trying.

      Sorry, I can't compare with the ge72 – never used one.

  20. Don

    December 21, 2016 at 7:33 pm

    Hello, do you know if i can upgrade 1080p panel to 4k panel. Do i need to buy 40 pin edp cable? Thanks.

    • Derek Sullivan

      December 22, 2016 at 4:11 pm

      I'm sure it's possible but I don't know if a new cable would be needed or not. If you know both of the panel numbers, you can look up the specs on panellook and see if they match. Odds are they are probably different though. If they are, you'll have to order the correct cable from MSI. Even then, that might be a long shot since they probably won't support it. You have to give them a S/N to do a parts order and I believe you can only purchase parts for the model you have.

      Good luck though. If you do it, please take pictures and post how you did it in the forums. That kind of info is gold.

  21. Dan

    January 5, 2017 at 3:28 am

    Did you ever get around to undervolting the gs63vr?

    Can you point me in a direction to a guide for undervolting for beginners?

    Enjoyed the review, thanks!

    • Derek Sullivan

      January 5, 2017 at 8:44 am

      Only the gs73vr but it's pretty much the same laptop besides the size. I ended up selling for a -160mv undervolt. I posted my results in the gs73vr article.

      You can use Doug's article as a resource:

      There's also the throttle stop forums, but that can be a little overwhelming. I personally used sometimes Reddit post on specifically undervolting the i7-6700hq.

  22. Francisco Ortiz

    January 6, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    I agree one will never get it as my GS60s panel but tweaking the Saturation,Hue, RGB settings and Also display calinration in windows improved the experience by alot. Still not GS60 quality but definitely maybe A good TN panel Quality whereas stock it was just 500 dollar laptop 720p bad.

  23. Francisco Ortiz

    January 6, 2017 at 5:26 pm

    Hey Dave, Assuming i get the urge and try to swap panels where cna i order both bezels from, or maybe il just order another LG panel online if I can source one, or can you point me in the right direction??? Ill need a bezel for the GS60 which would keep the Lg panel and one for the GS63 to which id put the samsung panel.

    • Derek Sullivan

      January 6, 2017 at 5:47 pm

      I'm assuming you're asking me and not Dave. :) You can order the bezels directly from MSI. I ordered a replacement one for my GS60 a while back and I believe it ran me about $30. All they need is your serial number for your unit so they can match up the parts. One thing you can't do thoug his order parts outside your model number. That's the way it is in the US at least.

      As for the 3k screen, I really liked it on my old GS60. I've seen it for sale on ebay but I don't know if the connector would be compatible or not. If not, you would need to purchase one and I'm not sure how you would do that other than ordering one through MSI under a 3k GS60 S/N. I think that screen would be perfect for the GS63VR considering the 1060 would be able to play a lot of games at that resolution with no problem. If that had been the screen in the model I had, I would have chosen the GS63VR over the GS73VR most likely.

      If you do replace it with a 3k screen, please take some pictures to share. I'd like to share that news with everyone.

  24. Francisco Ortiz

    January 6, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    Dave what do you think about the GS60 3k Panel i think i can source one of those at a decent price?

  25. Francisco Ortiz

    January 6, 2017 at 6:02 pm

    Crap Derek im sorry was thinking bout a coworker!!!!!!!!hahahhaa

  26. Francisco Ortiz

    January 6, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Yeah All the GS40 panels ive found are 40 pins where the GS63vR i have has 30 pins, i also saw a Whole LCd assembly with bezels and cables on ebay from a GS60 so that might be the way to go as i dont have to touch my GS60. Or maybe seource a 40 pin edp cable

    • Francisco Ortiz

      January 7, 2017 at 11:59 pm

      GS60 Sorry!

  27. Francisco Ortiz

    January 8, 2017 at 12:07 am

    Found a full LCD asembly off a GS60 with a 3K screen, cables and everything…..gonna try and order the extra bezel off MSI. Im gonna take the plunge and will swap the 128Gb m2 drive for a 512gb 960evo and 32gb ram while im at it. Will try and get this all done once i get all the parts..will keep u posted!!

  28. Francisco Ortiz

    January 10, 2017 at 1:37 am

    Hey Derek, How cna i order the extra bezel, the lcd panel is on its way so is the NVME SSD, decided to stay with 16gb of ram cause i dont think i need or will need 32gb so saved that money for later. Hope with the new panel and SSD ill be able to get 2 to 3 years of gooduse of this one…also ordered a INTEL 8265 wifi module

  29. Francisco Ortiz

    January 23, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    Hey Derek So I went ahead and discarded the 3k Deal…I returned it as i just decided i didnt want to mess with that much stuff..On the bright side i did manage to find a brand new LTN156HL01 Screen for 67 dollars shipped, and guess what i bought it, and replace that awful screen with this, and its night and day..I had no issues taking the bezel off just had to go about it carefully and once i got one clip off the bottom i realized what direction we are supposed to slide them to so as not to break them andnow i have a great laptop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now im waiting on my nvme ssd so i can swap the ssd out for a 480gb unit and ill be done!!!!!!!! Also i went to bb since they had lowered the price on the laptop in my return window they gave me a 110 dollar gift card. And now my laptop has a Samsung PLS disply with 300nit brightness and vivid colors, probably too vivid all for 1520 more or less, once i get that nvme ssd in it i think its a bargain, hope this helps anyone out there who is in mysituation, you dont have to feel sorry about yourself just do something about it,i was not going to settle for a subpar experience on what i believe is a great machine just cause some coporate thinkers thought it be best for business…my 2 cents!!!!!!!!

    • Derek Sullivan

      January 23, 2017 at 5:51 pm

      That's awesome! Thanks for sharing and I'm glad it worked out.

  30. Francisco Ortiz

    January 23, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Thanks…and i really truly apprecuate all your work and help,without your writeups i couldnt have found the courage to get into it

  31. Francisco Ortiz

    February 2, 2017 at 2:54 am

    Hey Derek Quick followup…thanks to your instructions i managed to upgrade the ssd for a 480gb BPX NVME UNit getting around 2500 read and 1600 write. Very happy with the machine now…didi a clean install and alll is well.

  32. Lee lie

    December 13, 2017 at 4:36 am

    Can i charge laptop using thunderbolt 3 for daily used.

  33. ninjataki

    March 16, 2018 at 7:15 am

    Hi Derek. Been researching this laptop like mad, tho yeah there are a few diff configs arent there! I'm late in on this, its now March 2018 but hey im in Australia and all we get is BS like late as and at total BS prices. Anyway I want this form factor and trust MSI so I'm sold on this laptop. HOWEVER!

    Now we have choices here of 1060 or 1070 MaxQ. also theres the 15 or 17" decision. I'm hearing mixed things. Some reviews claim good temps on the 17" but all reviews i read claim bad on 15". I want to ask you so many things but I'll collect my main thoughts and number them k.

    1. I don't game much but 'might'. Will do video eds eg Sony Vegas. I care more about screen color etc. Dont want the TN. Dont want 4k cause kill the b attery (at least on the 15, dunno the 17) Is there a way to know through windows what panel your getting in the panel lottery? I refuse to buy the LG screen, especially for the BS price we gotta pay here.

    2. Do you think due to having more space the 17" will run cooler than the 15? I prefer 15 size however temp is imperative to me for component longevity!

    3. I've heard MSI were slack and didnt bother to accommodate the MaxQ properly, they just dumped it in and altered nothing about the cooling. Hence getting bad reps on the 1070maxq combos.. sadly. Like I said before, cooling is primary to me even more than having a sparkling 1070. Im wondering if the 17" 1060 + IPS config is best for screen and cooling overall.. what do you think? I heard that 1070 maxq is only marginally better than 1060 non maxq anyway.

    I appreciate your help a lot! This laptop excites me, Im currently typing on my Travelmate 5720 with HD2600! My other lappy is DV6-6135tx with HD6770m (now a class 3 mid card but hey it holds up well considering its 2011 model!)


    • Derek Sullivan

      March 16, 2018 at 8:04 am

      First off, don't waste your money on the max-q. It's far too expensive and if you don't game much, it's worthless.

      Now onto the form factor; I think since you don't want Tn or 4k, you're pretty much locked into the 15" version. As far as I know, those are the only two options for the 17". Probably for the best because the 15" form factor is way more portable feeling.

      Unfortunately I don't know which models have which screen. You probably have to consult the forums to determine that. I did just recently get a "whitebook" model on eBay that had a higher quality LG screen in it. It's actually quite good and probably equal to Samsung's top FHD panel.

      In regards to heat, both laptops reach high thermals. I think the GS63VR probably gets hotter in the center and if it's on your lap. But in all honesty, if you're not doing heavy gaming, it's probably not going to affect you all that much.

      Hope this helps. Let me know if you have more questions.

      • ninjataki

        March 16, 2018 at 8:55 am

        Thanks for a fast reply! After reading your 17" review im leaning towards the 4k. However I notice here in Aus they all list "IPS level 4k", isnt that tn? models say MSI GS73VR 7RF-296AU, with another same but 239au, then another 240au. But nothing appears different in the specs! but price is vastly different. Extremely confusing!!

        I dunno.. 15.. 17.. ughhhhh

      • Derek Sullivan

        March 16, 2018 at 9:46 am

        I'm not aware of any 4k TN screens on the market. I could take a look at any links you have.

      • Andy

        March 17, 2018 at 9:18 am

        I read somewhere that the saying "ips level" was code for "great TN", they might have been off.

        Sorry for all the questions, it's just your reviews was the most practical comprehensive i've found and I really do have my heart set on this lappy but need to get the config right first go cause it is a lot of money.

        I'm picking up a vibe that the 17" is not proportional to the 15", meaning it loses a ton of that great portability for a meager gain of those 2". I've never held the 17" in RL, only the 15". If that statement is true then I'll go the 15" Perhaps thats the reason the 15" is redicolously expensive here in AUS but the 17" is actually cheaper!

        Dam so for my purpose of business, Vid editing and very occasional gaming (I dont play shooters, just like sim city etc strategy maybe the odd Jap Sexy Beach style game haha), you think the 120hz is a no-go? That would leave FHD panel-lottery or batt draining but good quality panel 4k.. what would you do? Also if I follow your undervoltage thing i can keep heat off right?

      • Derek Sullivan

        March 17, 2018 at 10:11 am

        So, for the "IPS level" concern – yes, for many manufacturers, it usually means PLS, AHVA or even really nice TN. It's very vague and I don't like the smoke and mirrors, but most manufacturer's marketing teams these days advertise that way. In the case of the 4k GS73VR, the panel is AHVA, which is very hard to distinguish from IPS.
        It's actually a really nice screen(assuming they haven't changed it since I had reviewed the Skylake model).

        What's really frustrating is resellers tend to just transpose the specs they get from MSI, which sometimes have errors. I haven't checked recently but when I was originally reviewing this and the GS73VR, almost everyone had the wrong screen and most had at least one spec wrong. It also really drives me crazy that they all put the same MSI marketing graphics, which basically have *ALL* the highlights of all models. So sometimes screen features that do not exist with that specific model makes determining the specs quite difficult. Even a couple custom PC builders claimed the GS73VR had a 120Hz true IPS screen, which is completely false. I even emailed them to verify and they did so, but were wrong and lost all credibility with me to this day.

        Yes, I've seen the same in the US – in many stores the 17" version is actually cheaper. It's mainly because the demand is lower and almost all of the components are exactly the same as the 15" model. Believe it or not, the only differences are the screen, battery and the case, which probably have identical costs to the 15" equivalents. As far as proportionality goes, the 17" model is pretty much in line actually. It's still actually one of the most portable 17" laptops available. But in comparison to the 15" model, it's 1.5lb heavier and almost 1.5" wider, which might make it difficult to put in some backpacks. It fit perfectly in mine though, which is why I kept it for so long. I have the GS63VR now though and thoroughly enjoy the lighter and thinner experience, while keeping the same hardware inside. The 180 degree hinge is also nice. Either way you go is nice – it'll just depend on your weight preferences and ultimately your screen choice.

        For your purposes, I'd avoid the 120Hz screen. It's really for gaming and not worth losing the benefits of IPS. The 4k screen on the 17" model is really nice(again assuming it hasn't changed) but also uses more battery. Worth the sacrifice in my opinion? Yes, but keep in mind that the programs you use for video editing might not scale well. My wife had this issue and ended up having to switch the resolution to FHD to do work. YMMV

        If you go 15", you'll have to deal with the lottery. After getting this whitebook GS63 model, this is the 5th screen I've heard of in this model to date. The 4k version is nice but is a battery hog. And for the FHD version, 3 out of the 4 are fine, with the 4th being atrocious(in my review). 1 out of the good 3 has PWM, but that may not affect you(I never notice).

        Worst case scenario, if you lose the lottery, you could always change the screen yourself. I tried it on the model I have now and it's not really that hard – it just depends on how handy you are and if you have the right tools. I could walk you through it if it came to that.

        For your last question, yes UV will help with heat. I also repasted with LM to further lower temps but I would not recommend that unless you really know what you are doing and are willing to take the risk.

  34. Andy

    March 19, 2018 at 7:30 am

    So after much thought I realized that 4k in a 15" just doesn't seem right. But in the 17" it works better imo, especially for my purpose of vid pro- adding real estate etc.

    The last thing to consider was that the 1060 can't really take advantage of the 4k (if I were to actually hit it with a high grade game), whereas if I were to go the 1070 + 4k + 17" aren't I hitting a good relatively safe future proof balance?

    That plan sounded great BUT that combo doesn't seem to exist in Australia! WTH!! It seems though I can get the !7" 4K 1060 here cheapest of all the combo's !? Go figure. So question is whether to go for that or hold out for a future 1070 4k 17" to hit that safe ground..

    What do you think oh oracle of the laptop world Derek my friend?

    • Derek Sullivan

      March 19, 2018 at 8:59 am

      Do you mean for games? If so a yes the 1060 is a little lacking for 4k. You would have to switch to FHD settings. But for everything else, the 1060 is more than enough. What programs are you planning on running?

      • Andy

        April 1, 2018 at 6:27 am

        My apologies Derek on not replying sooner. Actually I've made up my mind and I'll quickly share why.

        Form Factor and 180. I want the tight form factor of the 15", even over the 17". I though about other high end but cheaper alts like Asus rog gamer/Zeph and Acer Triton but only the MSI can open lid 180 which I need to use under my desk (like a keyboard) connected to an ext monitor.

        I wont settle for a 1060, I want the future proofing and 4k pushing power of the 1070 minimum. I'm willing to play the panel lottery and wont get 4k 15".

        So now it's very simple for me. I will sit tight and wait for a good GS63VR 7RG deal :) In the meantime my DV6 and Acer 5720's will tide me over.

      • Derek Sullivan

        April 1, 2018 at 6:38 am

        Nice, I'm glad you got it figured out.

  35. Bruno Monjon

    May 27, 2020 at 12:53 am

    Hello guys, I have this ultrabook, but 1 integrated component has fried. Could you help me finding this component? its name is AKVA625, I've no ideia where to find it…

    • Derek Sullivan

      May 27, 2020 at 2:06 am

      I’m not sure. Where are you getting that model number if the part is fried?

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