MSI GS63VR Stealth Pro review – Nvidia GTX 1060 graphics in a compact 15-incher

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By Derek SullivanMSI GS63VR Stealth Pro, last updated on September 3, 2018

MSI GS63VR Stealth Pro

Summary: In general, the MSI Stealth Pro GS63VR is a great successor to the Ghost Pro GS60. The design and build quality have both improved and the hardware inside is also a nice bundle to have in such a small package. During my use, I never frowned upon it’s handling or usability as a productivity machine, and I consider this to be a capable gaming machine as well, granted you can deal with the heat. The screen options include a decent IPS FHD panel, a bad FHD TN panel for the BestBuy models (beware), or an expensive and very power hungry, 4K option. Read on to find out more.

Our score: 4 / 5
Price when reviewed: $1799 - $1999

THE GOOD

Portable form-factor with a powerful GPU; Great build quality; Excellent keyboard; External GPU compatibility -

THE BAD

poor FHD screen (BestBuy model only, the others get a better IPS panel); 4k configurations get terrible battery life; slow SD card reader speeds; difficult to upgrade SSD and RAM; runs hot under load

Table of Contents

The specs sheet
Design and first look
Keyboard and trackpad
Screen
Hardware, performance and upgrade options
Emissions (noise, heat), Connectivity and speakers
Battery life
Price and availability
Final thoughts

Another thin and light MSI laptop that’s available these days is the Stealth Pro GS63VR. It’s actually a refresh of the Ghost Pro GS60, however MSI has decided to adopt the Stealth name instead for some reason. Either way, this is the 15” version of their thin and light series and boy is it an impressive machine.

After seeing the GS73VR in action I was also very interested about the GS63VR. On paper, it’s basically just a smaller, 15” version. Similar to the GS73VR, it also has a redesigned chassis. Being a former GS60 owner, I’m kind of interested in this model just to see if it’s something I’d want over the larger GS73VR. Luckily I had a friend of mine that bought one and lent it to me for a few days.

I actually only got to review the FHD version for a few days, but I liked it so much that I decided to give the 4k version a try. So in my review below you’ll actually get to see how I feel about both versions for a change. Check it your for my in-depth impressions, especially with the differences in the screen and battery life. Keep in mind that the FHD version I reviewed is the -001 model from Best Buy, which has some significant differences between the other models.

The specs sheet

	MSI Stealth Pro GS63VR
Screen	15.6 inch, 1920 x 1080 resolution, IPS, 60 Hz, Wide angle 15.6 inch, 3840 x 2160 resolution, PLS, 60Hz, Wide angle
Processor	Intel Skylake Core i7-6700HQ CPU, quad-core 2.6 GHz(3.5Ghz boost)
Video	Intel HD 530 and NVIDIA GTX 1060 with 6GB GDDR5 VRAM
Memory	16 GB DDR4 2400Mhz (2 x DIMMs)
Storage	128 or 512 GB M.2 SATA + 1 TB 5200rpm HDD
Connectivity	Killer Wireless-AC 1535, Qualcomm Atheros Bluetooth 4.1(Intel for the -001 model)
Ports	3x USB 3.0, Thunderbolt 3, HDMI 1.4b, mini-DP, USB 2.0, mic, earphone, ethernet
Battery	57 Wh
Operating system	Windows 10
Size	380 mm or 14.96” (w) x 249 mm or 9.80” (d) x 17.7 mm or .70” (h)
Weight	1.8 kg or 3.96 lb
Extras	Multi-colored backlit keyboard, trackpad, HD webcam

Design and first look

Picking up the laptop for the first time, I was immediately impressed. It really is a smaller version of the previous MSI Ghost Pro GS60. Not only is the thickness slightly smaller, but so is the weight and the overall footprint. Weighing just under 4 pounds and being extremely powerful are the two most appealing features to this laptop.

Overall, the build quality is very solid. I don’t think there are any weak spots that I would worry about on this one. My first instinct after using the GS73VR was to look for sharp edges, but I really couldn’t find any. No matter which way I hold it, it feels very sturdy and easy to handle. MSI did a very good job with this one.

The lid is pretty much just like all the other MSI laptops. It’s a brushed Lithium-Magnesium alloy, which is black in color. The lid is adorned with an MSI logo and their Gaming G series dragon logo. Like all the others, it glows when the screen is on and there is no way to shut it off.

The other side of the laptop has been changed though. It’s still a metallic cover, but for this model it’s almost entirely covered in black felt. This is most definitely to help dissipate heat. At first, I was taken off guard from this but I quickly started to like it. It feels pleasant to touch and also looks pretty good. It might get dirty over time, but nowhere near as bad as the fingerprints will look after using the laptop for only a few days.

Also on the bottom are the absurd amount of stickers MSI insists on placing on their laptops. Luckily, most of them can come off if you desire so, but one is a warranty sticker though, so beware of that. I learned the other day that US and Canada owners are free to remove that one though, as it is not enforced in those countries. If this were my unit, I would remove them all and relocate the S/N sticker to the inside of the lid. Personal preference.

The lid lifts from a single finger, which I really like. But it isn’t as sturdy as the screen on the GS73VR and is probably why the lid on that one didn’t lift with a single finger. I usually prefer a single finger lift, but the screen stability might be an issue for some who tend to move the laptop or lift it too fast. The screen can and will move if you do so. I had this problem with my old GS60, but it wasn’t something that really bothered me all that much.

The only criticism I have about the hinge is that it doesn’t exactly hold the laptop uniformly shut. On my unit, there was a small gap on the right front edge with the lid closed. The left hand side was flush with the palm rest. Again, my GS60 also had this problem as well and it never bothered me. It’s something worth mentioning though.

One special thing about the screen is the fact it opens up to just over 180°. So you can basically lay your laptop completely flat on a surface if you wanted. I honestly have no idea what I’d use this feature for, but there are a decent number of people who look for it.

Moving on, the keyboard and palm rest area is a little different than the previous models. For starters, the footprint is a lot smaller, so the keyboard has a little less space to deal with. There’s no gradual recess into the palm rest like on the other models, but it is recessed enough so the keys don’t touch the screen. Above the keyboard is the ventilation for both the CPU and GPU.

Centered in the ventilation is a very modest power indicator. This is where the power button used to be on previous models, but now serves to let you know which GPU the laptop is using. If red, it’s using Intel graphics, while orange indicates that the GTX 1060 chip is active. I like how this LED is small, but because of that, it’s actually really difficult to tell the difference between orange and red.

Below the keyboard, which I’ll discuss in more detail soon, is the trackpad. I’ll also discuss this in more detail, but I wanted to point out something in terms of the location. Because the laptop’s footprint got smaller, the trackpad is even more cramped than ever before. Like with the GS60, it’s extremely close to the edge of the laptop, but is also now even closer to the spacebar, so if you’re the type to prop this laptop up on your knees in bed, you might have some issues with accidentally hitting the trackpad.

Starting at the front, there’s no connectivity but there is a small groove for lifting the lid in the center. The right hand side also has a number of indicator lights. Like the 17” version, these lights are tiny, but also extremely bright. So bright that I find them annoying in a dark room actually, as they tend to make my shirt glow red.

There’s no IO on the back side either, but this part gets a pretty cool design, alongside the functional CPU and GPU exhausts. Centered there’s a “Stealth” name plate and the sides have some red lines. All these are initially covered in plastic film, so don’t forget to remove it so they shine even more. These accents are actually nice, given you like the color red.

The left side gets a secondary GPU exhaust. This is good because the more ventilation for the GTX 1060, the better. By the way, that GPU has two exhaust fans instead of the single fan it had with the GS60. Also on the left there’s also a Kensington lock, an SD card slot, 3x USB 3.0 ports, a HiFi headphone jack and a microphone jack.

The right side gets a second CPU exhaust. You’ll also find a poorly placed power jack here, in the middle of everything. I say poorly mainly because it’s on the right hand side and the cord can get in the way of your mouse, but at least the cord has a 90° elbow and is not sticking straight out. Beside the power jack, there are also an HDMI 2.0 port, a Thunderbolt 3 port and a USB 2.0 port on this right edge. Oh yeah, the power button here, towards the front.

That power button’s placement did worry me at first, but I actually got used to it. It’s pretty flush and in such a forward position that it doesn’t have much of a chance to get accidentally pressed. I definitely like it better than having a giant LED lit circle smack in the middle, above the keyboard, like on the GS60.

The only thing I was hoping for though was the ability to allow the power button to wake the laptop from sleep with the lid closed. In this unit, the button is disabled with the lid closed. I know most would actually want that button to be disabled, but I would like to just see an option to change that if I desired. That way the notebook could be easily hooked up to an external monitor and used with the lid still shut.

Overall, I’m very pleased with the design on the GS63VR. MSI did a very good job making sure the edges are all flush and rounded on this one. The only minor criticisms I can think of are the power cord placement and maybe moving one of the USB 3.0 ports to the other side. These are really small complaints though.

Keyboard and trackpad

The Steelseries keyboard on the GS63VR is identical to the keyboard on the GS73VR and the latest version of the GS60. There’s not a whole lot to add to what I think about it other than it’s one of the best laptop keyboards for such a thin design. I’m tempted to just cut and paste my opinions from previous articles, but I’m happy to say it all again.

The key travel is actually really impressive, at 2.2mm. The feedback is also stellar, at about 60 grams of force needed to apply a keypress. This all showed when I took my typical typing test and scored just above my average typing speed.

However, the only criticism I have for the GS63VR keyboard is there is some mild keyboard flex on the left hand side. I remember experiencing this with a GS60 as well and I think it was due to the lack of support where the battery sits. It might be the same with this model and I’ll have to do a little trial and error to see if I can fix it. Either way, it’s not horrible, but enough for me to notice.

The RGB backlighting options are another nice feature of the keyboard. There are three color zones with hundreds of different color options for each zone. There are also some color “effects” similar to Alienware’s that can be used within the Steelseries software. Unfortunately, there’s no per key color effects like Razer and Aorus use, but if you’re like me you probably won’t care about that all too much.

Like other MSI laptops, the key layout is a little…different. The Windows key is on the right hand side instead of the traditional left. If that bothers you though, you can switch the Fn and Windows keys in the bios. Apparently you can physically remove and change the key caps, but I haven’t dared do that yet. Another oddly placed key is detele, hidden away above the num pad.

The font is also the same unique look of the GS60. Most of the letters are squared off and definitely look different than the norm. It’s something you get used to, but it might attract some unwanted attention in a professional environment, if they aren’t too busy staring at the glowing dragon.

Another thing MSI has kept the same with the GS models is the trackpad. From what I can tell, it’s the same trackpad as on the GS73VR, GS70 and GS60. This is nice for me because I really got used to the trackpad on my old GS60 and eventually grew to like it a lot.

I’ll admit, I didn’t like the GS60 trackpad at first, mainly because of the plastic texture. If you have any moisture on your fingertips, the surface feels incredibly tacky. Once you get the hang of it though, it tracks accurately and also allows for a number of multi-touch gestures that work fine.

It’s a clickpad variant, so the left and right clicks can be actuated on the lower corners. The clicks are shallow to me and some people might find them unreliable. I personally don’t like clickpads for that very reason, so I immediately changed two finger taps to be used for right clicks.

It’s an Elan brand trackpad, so your typical Elan drivers work well, but for the most part the drivers MSI uses as default fit all my needs. I really like having three finger swipe forward and back for internet browsing, which this one includes. The thing it lacks is three finger swipe upwards for app switching, which instead they map for starting slide shows. Hopefully there’s a way to edit the registry to correct this, like there was in the past.

The only legitimate complaint I have with the trackpad is how close it is to the front edge of the laptop. If you look carefully in the pictures, you’d see it’s only a matter of millimeters away. The problem with this is you tend to accidentally nudge it if it’s pressed against you on your lap. Obviously you can adjust the laptop to compensate, but for some, that may be difficult to do.

In the end, both the keyboard and trackpad are highlights of the machine, in my opinion. It would be nice to have a glass trackpad someday, but it’s at least good to see things staying the same, rather than going in the wrong direction. There’s nothing I would change about the keyboard, except that MSI work on their QC and eliminate the keyboard flex.

Screen

The screen on the GS63VR FHD model I received isn’t as good as I hoped. I was actually expecting to get the exact same FHD panel that was in the GS60, but to my surprise, they put a different one on this latest model. It’s an IPS display at least, so the viewing angles are very good, but the brightness and colors leave something to be desired.

The panel is a 15.6” matte LG IPS display, with the model LP156WF6-SPK1, in case you want to look up the specs. The max resolution is 1920 x 1080 px and it has a 60Hz refresh rate.

Unfortunately, the color space is the main issue. Using a Spyder4Pro, I measured sRGB to be a mere 65%, NTSC 47% and aRGB 49%. This is significantly lower than the FHD panel in the GS60, which had sRGB coverage in the mid 90s. It’s not something I needed a tool to notice either – I noticed the dull colors the minute the computer hit the desktop for the first time. Some would be OK with this screen, but if you edit pictures/video and/or use it next to any decent monitor out there, you might think twice.

Screens – GS63(FHD) (left) and GS73(FHD) (Right)

The measured contrast ratio hovered around 600:1, which is pretty decent. But the maximum brightness was only measured to be 246 nits, which is weak in my opinion. Even with the matte screen finishing, using this laptop outdoors will be a struggle.

On a more positive note, the minimum brightness is amongst the lowest I’ve ever seen. A mere 4 nits brightness is excellent if you’re the type to wake up at 5am and surf the web or watch a movie the second you wake up.

Below is a chart showing the brightness distribution of the FHD screen.

There’s really nothing else to say, except that I’m a little disappointed in this panel. Considering the price of this GS63VR configuration being so close to the GS73VR, I was expecting a little more with the screen. Maybe not 120Hz but at least a bright and colorful IPS option.

The alternative for this notebook is a 4k screen, which is advertised to have 100% sRGB coverage. Without a doubt, go for the 4k model if you care about color space or screen brightness at all. Luckily I have a 4k model available as well, so you can make an informed decision.

The viewing angles on the 4k screen are about as good as they get. The images are crisp and the colors are a big step up from the FHD panel. I measured 98% sRGB, 68% NTSC and 74% aRGB. In case you were wondering, the model number for this panel is LP156UD1-SPB1.

My panel had only tiny amounts of backlight bleed on the bottom edge. The brightness is reasonable, with a maximum of 273 nits measured. The blacks were a little bright though, so it really throws off the contrast ratio, around 360:1. Also like the FHD panel, the minimum brightness was extremely low. I reached a minimum brightness of only 5 nits with blacks reading 0 nits.

Here is a chart showing the brightness distribution of the 4k screen.

At the original time of writing this article, I assumed that these were the only two screen options. This is not the case, however. There are actually other FHD options that are superior to the panel on the -001(Best Buy) model. A couple users have reported that they have a Samsung SDC324C, which is the same as the FHD panel on the old GS60s. I actually really liked this panel because it was both bright and had 100% sRGB coverage. It has PWM though, so that may be bothersome for some people who are prone to it.

Others have reported that they received a different LG panel that is pretty much equivalent to the Samsung model above except without the PWM. I haven’t gotten any definitive answers as to what model number has what panel yet. If you’re picky about your screen choices, I suggest seeking the forums to see what model people have bought and where they got it from. Had I gotten one of these, my review score would certainly have been a 4 out of 5.

Hardware, performance and upgrade options

The Stealth Pro GS63VR comes with the Skylake i7-6700HQ quad-core processor. Until the quad-core Kaby Lake processors come out, this is pretty much the best one you’ll see in a laptop this thin, and it allows for programs to open and run at fast speeds. I’ve never had a complaint with this processor and this laptop is no different.

Before I continue, I want to note right away that my testing is being completed on a clean install of Windows. The MSI build has a lot of bloatware that really seemed to bog down the system, if you ask me. There was some major trackpad stuttering that was going on and some programs were very slow to load, but all that went away with a fresh install and a quick load of the latest drivers.

The GTX 1060 is a pretty hefty graphics card to fit into such a small package. I’ll admit I was a little concerned with thermals at first. But the graphics card really performs well and allows for some pretty excellent gaming performance. The GPU has 6GB of VRAM, which should be enough for almost everyone out there.

For battery life concerns, MSI opted for Optimus over G-Sync on this one. Probably a good choice with such a small battery. The power indicator light doubles as an indicator to what GPU is operating: red for integrated graphics and orange for the GTX 1060. Speaking of that light, it’s not on the power button for a change. Instead, it’s subtly located in the center of the intake vents, above the keyboard. This is a welcome change over the giant power button of the GS60, that switched from blue to orange.

The SSD is nothing special, in fact is actually SATA and not NVMe. The 128GB version is pretty slow and you’ll probably want to replace it. The 512GB is a little faster at least, but it still a SATA drive. Replacing the SSD can be quite challenging though, and I’ll get to that in a bit.

The included HDD is awfully slow as well. It’s only a 5200rpm drive and the speeds are pretty bad if you’re used to 7200rpm or even SSDs. Honestly, I don’t think I could survive with a 128GB SSD and this slow HDD, because I would immediately fill up the SSD and would avoid using the HDD at all costs. The HDD won’t slow down actual framerates in gameplay, but loading times are definitely affected.

So now that I brought up upgrading, let’s talk about what can be done. First off, to open the system, you have to break a warranty sticker. Fortunately for the US and Canada, that sticker means nothing. For everyone else though, opening that sticker means your warranty is void, so you’ve been warned, in case you decide to venture further.

Internals – HDD easily accessible, but the SSD and the RAM are behind the motherboard

Once inside, you’ll notice that the HDD is pretty easy to get to and swap out. The SSD and RAM are a different matter though, as they are actually on the opposite side of the motherboard, so in order to get to them you’ll have to disassemble the motherboard and flip it over. If patiently taking things apart and following directions aren’t your thing, I highly recommend not doing this. Otherwise, give yourself a lot of light, time and space before attempting it.

Once you get to the other side, you’ll find a single M.2 80 mm slot, which accepts SATA and NVMe drives. There are also two RAM slots, which can take up to 32GB of RAM. Because getting to these components is not a walk in the park, I think most people getting the 128GB model will just settle for upgrading the HDD, maybe to a 1 TB SSD or something.

I’ve put up together a step by step guide on how to access the internals on the MSI GS73 and MSI GS63, and you should check it out here if interested in upgrading any of the components.

I ran some benchmarks, which you can see below. Here’s what I got:

3Dmark 13: Time Spy – 3646 , Fire Strike – 9648 , Sky Diver – 22019; Max CPU temp 83C, Max GPU temp 75C;
PCMark 08: Home Conventional – 3263, Accelerated – 3999 with 74 C max temp;
CineBench R15: OpenGL 100.60 fps, CPU 667 pts, CPU Single Core 115 pts.

I also benchmarked a number of games to give you an idea of how the GTX 1060 performs. All of the benchmarks were taken with the FHD version. The 4k model performed similarly, so I didn’t repeat any of them.

Fallout 4– Around Lexington and Corvega Plant during a thunderstorm. Lots of fighting.
- Ultra settings, Max AA and AP 1080p – 48-60fps
- Default high settings at 1080p – 60 fps

Witcher 3– Played through the opening scene and the battle tutorial
- Ultra, 1080p – 47-53fps
- High, 1080p – 65-69fps
- Peak CPU temp 85°C, peak GPU temp 75C

Dragon Age: Inquisition– Walked around one of the first camps and got into a battle. Played for about 10 minutes for each session.
- Default ultra settings, MSAA x2 at 1080p – 50-53fps
- Default high settings, no MSAA at 1080p – 80-88fps
- Peak CPU temp 81°C, peak GPU temp 77°C

Crysis 3– Played through the opening scene
- Very High, AA x1, 1080p – 45-67fps
- High, AA off, 1080p – 62-100fps
- Peak CPU temp 81°C, peak GPU temp 75°C

No Man’s Sky– Running around on planet, getting on ship and rushing to another spot, forcing regeneration rapidly. This was after 1 hour session.
- High, FXAA, no Vsync, 1080p – 55-85fps
- High, FXAA, no Vsync, 4k – 28-35fps
- On battery, High, FXAA, no Vsync, 1080p – 30fps
- Peak CPU temp 86°C, peak GPU temp 75°C

As expected, the GTX 1060 makes a huge difference over the 970m version on last year’s GS60 and it’s impressive to see 60fps on AAA titles in such a small form factor. I’m also very impressed with the internal temps staying in the 70s and low 80s for the most part. I honestly thought the GS63VR would do worse than the GS73VR I tested a couple weeks back, but it turns out they both perform almost the same.

Again, the amount of bloatware is pretty bad on this one. If you decide to stick with it, you’ll get a lot of popups for registration, backing up your recovery partition, and worst of all, Norton. I personally find it easier just to do a fresh install, especially since there’s no registry key needed and odds are Windows needs major updates anyways.

If you do a fresh install, all of MSI’s drivers are on their webpage. You can also install the SteelSeries engine and the MSI dragon center. The latter is optional but I’d say it’s pretty nice to have if you like having fan control. There’s also an option to use “Eco mode” which stunts the CPU to 1.2Ghz. If neither of these things interest you, you can probably live without the Dragon Center.

Emissions (noise, heat), Connectivity and speakers

The cooling system has improved a lot over the GS60. The CPU and GPU are independently cooled, like before, but this time the GPU gets two fans instead of one. The single CPU fan was upgraded as well though, as it actually runs at lower speeds than before and is much quieter, as a result.

I took some noise readings from my S7 Edge using the Android Sensor Box app. The ambient reading was 23dB. With the fan on during normal usage, I measured 25db at ear level and 30dB at the exhaust. Under full gaming load, the fans ramp up reaching levels of 35dB at ear level and 45 dB at the exhaust. The fan noise itself has a pretty low pitch, however there is a little bit of high pitched coil whine coming from the CPU fan on this unit, and that can bother you if you are prone to that kind of noise. This appears to be a wide spread problem with the GS63 and GS73 models.

As for heat, the laptop does tend to get pretty hot. It’s a good thing MSI put that felt on the bottom to make the laptop feel at least a little more comfortable on the lap. Under normal loads, it’s pretty tolerable, but gaming loads might require a cooling pad for many of you.

I took some temperature readings on the keyboard and underneath. Here were my results:

*Daily Use – 1080p Youtube clip in EDGE for 30 minutes
*Load – playing No Man’s Sky for approximately 30 minutes on high FHD settings

If these readings scare you, there are a couple things that can be done to improve the temperatures. First off, notice that the left side is significantly cooler than the right side. This is because there are two GPU fans and only one CPU fan. Under normal loads, the GPU is doing nothing, so there’s no heat. Under gaming loads, the GPU fans are working wonderfully, while the single CPU fan struggles a bit.

But there are a couple of solutions you can consider to lower the CPU temps. For one, you can utilize MSI’s Eco mode in the Dragon Center. This limits the CPU speeds and significantly lowers the operating temperatures. You’ll notice a little stutter in daily use, but it doesn’t affect watching movies at all and it also helps with battery life. When gaming though, this is not a viable option.

Another, and better performing method, would be to undervolt the CPU. It’s a pretty involved task and there are many guides to it, but I speak from experience that it can help. In fact, when I get to a point of doing it myself on this machine, I will post my results. If successful, you’ll have lower CPU voltages with the same performance. This will result in less heat generation and overall lower temperatures on the right hand side.

The last option is repasting. Again, just getting to the CPU and GPU requires a complete disassembly, and if you have the skills to get to this point, you have the skills to repaste. There are guides on how to do it. I’m not sure the heat buildup on the underside will be lessened, but it will result in lower internal temps for the CPU and GPU directly.

Moving on, the speakers are downward facing and are located on the bottom front edge. There’s only two of them too and they are nothing special at all. In fact, besides the substandard colors on the FHD panel, the audio is the low point on the machine. They get fairly loud, but you have to do some work for it by messing with the settings in the Nahimic software.

I measured a peak level of 70db at ear level while playing a song on YouTube. For reference, the ambient noise levels in the room was 24 dB. The treble pretty much dominates, as I could reliably not detect bass levels below 60Hz. So bottom point, there’s nothing impressive about these speakers, but they are better than nothing I suppose and at least the volume is audible.

MSI makes up for the crappy speakers with the headphone jack though. The GS63VR is equipped with a Sabre ESS HiFi digital to analog converter, which really improves the sound coming through the headphone jack. Even crummy headphones sound a little better than with a typical laptop connection. I’ve been using this connection for a couple weeks now and am very happy with it.

There are a number of connectivity options on the laptop, which I really appreciate. It would have been nice to have a USB 3.0 on the right instead of a 2.0, but if you’re like me, it’s going to be permanently be occupied by a USB mouse dongle anyway.

The 3x USB 3.0 ports are great if you have really low profile things plugged in over there. Otherwise, you might as well consider only two of them accessible at the same time, as the ports are so close together that I often found it impossible to plug things into all three of them. More than once I plugged something into the middle port and had to unplug it and move it to the end to get something else in the other end.

Like most newer, high end laptops, this one has Thunderbolt 3. I was able to connect to my Razer Core with a GTX 1080 and get a pretty significant performance boost over the laptop by itself. The GS63VR operated just as smoothly with the Razer Core as if it were the Razer Blade itself.

For internet connection, the Killer Wifi card is more than capable of providing what most people would need. I was able to max out my internet connection(90Mbps) in most parts of my house. About 100 feet and 3 walls away, the speed dropped to as low as 70Mbps. If that’s not enough for you, there’s also a Gigabit Ethernet connection.

Again, like with the GS73VR, I normally don’t have anything to say about the memory card slot other than its existence. This one falls short of expectations though, mainly because is limited to USB 2.0 speeds. Copying files to and from the card take a lot longer than most card readers I’ve seen. My Sandisk Extreme Pro card should be getting read speeds of up to 80MB/s, but unfortunately on this machine, I’m limited to 27MB/s.

Finally, the webcam is unfortunately another low point to note of. I think MSI fixed their specs and made it say HD instead of FHD. Most of the retailers still incorrectly say FHD though. Regardless, it’s a 720p (HD) webcam. It works, but it’s pretty low quality. The low light photos I took were really grainy and even the normal lit ones didn’t look to hot. I’m pretty sure the camera on my old GS60 was better than this.

Battery life

My battery test for the FHD version consists of using the stock “Power Saver” power profile, 40% brightness (80 nits), WiFi off, Bluetooth off, and running a 720p movie in a continuous loop at full screen with the volume muted. I start the clock when it’s unplugged and stop it when the unit performs a self-shutdown. The MSI GS63VR FHD model lasted a decent 5 hours and 17 minutes before shutting down.

In the following test, we’ve set the screen’s brightness at 40%, which is about 80 nits. Eco mode is off for all tests except the one noted. Also the keyboard backlighting was set to minimal.

7.1 W (~ 8 h 1 min of use) – idle, Power Saving Mode, screen at 0%, Wi-Fi OFF;
13.5 W (~ 4 h 13 min of use) – light browsing and text editing in Microsoft Word, Balanced Mode, screen at 40%, Wi-Fi ON;
12.4 W (~ 4 h 36 min of use) – 1080p full screen video on YouTube in EDGE, Balanced Mode, screen at 40%, Wi-Fi ON;
11.0 W (~ 5 h 11 min of use) – 1080p full screen .mkv video in Movie App, Balanced Mode, screen at 40%, Wi-Fi ON;
18.7 W (~3 h 3 min of use) – heavy browsing in EDGE, Balanced Mode, screen at 40%, Wi-Fi ON, Eco mode on;
34 W (~1 h 41 min of use)– heavy browsing in EDGE, Balanced Mode, screen at 40%, Wi-Fi ON;
55 W (~ 1 h 2 min of use) – heavy gaming in 1080p, Balanced Mode, screen at 40%, Wi-Fi ON.

And again for the 4k version the battery test consists of using the stock “Power Saver” power profile, 40% brightness (80 nits), WiFi off, Bluetooth off, and running a 720p movie in a continuous loop at full screen with the volume muted. I start the clock when it’s unplugged and stop it when the unit performs a self- shutdown. The MSI GS63VR 4k model lasted a mere 4 hours and 1 minute before shutting down.

In the following test, we’ve set the screen’s brightness at 40%, which is about 80 nits. Eco mode is off for all tests except the one noted. Also the keyboard backlighting was set to minimal.

12 W (~ 4 h 45 min of use) – idle, Power Saving Mode, screen at 0%, Wi-Fi OFF;
22.1 W (~ 2 h 36 min of use) – light browsing and text editing in Microsoft Word, Balanced Mode, screen at 40%, Wi-Fi ON;
34.4 W (~ 1 h 40 min of use) – 4k full screen video on YouTube in EDGE, Balanced Mode, screen at 40%, Wi-Fi ON;
22.7 W (~ 2 h 31 min of use) – 1080p full screen .mkv video in Movie App, Balanced Mode, screen at 40%, Wi-Fi ON;
24.2 W (~2 h 22 min of use)– heavy browsing in EDGE, Balanced Mode, screen at 40%, Wi-Fi ON, Eco mode on;
44.5 W (~1 h 17 min of use)– heavy browsing in EDGE, Balanced Mode, screen at 40%, Wi-Fi ON;
28.2 W (~ 2 h 1 min of use)– heavy gaming in 1080p, Balanced Mode, screen at 40%, Wi-Fi ON.

It’s clear that the trade off for having a 4k screen is having pitiful battery life. Personally, I would choose the screen, but I definitely wouldn’t like having only 2 hours of actual working time.

Also included is a 180 watt charger brick, which only measures 6.1”x3.0”x1.2” and weighs about 1.5 pounds. This one is smaller than the 150 watt brick on my GS60, so I really appreciate that.

Price and availability

The MSI Stealth Pro GS63VR is available at multiple retailers. Amazon has many units in stock ranging in prices from $1799 to $2000 at the time of this post, depending on the configuration. Follow this link for more details and updated configurations.

There’s also a Best Buy version for $1549, but I recommend steering clear of this unit if you don’t want to witness the below standard FHD screen. I’m not positive, but that screen could very well be specific to the models at Best Buy. Other reviews have reported a FHD panel with better colors, but until I can compare actual panel models, it’s all a big unknown. If anyone finds out, please let me know so I can keep people updated.

UPDATE: Josh left a comment below stating that he received a unit with a Samsung panel, which is equivalent to the panel in the old GS60. This is a really nice panel and I would highly recommend it over the LG model I received, if you care anything about color space.

The MSI Stealth Pro GS63VR starts at $1549, with the 4K configurations going for around $2000

Final thoughts

In general, the MSI Stealth Pro GS63VR is a great successor to the Ghost Pro GS60. The design and build quality have both improved and the hardware inside is also a nice bundle to have in such a small package. It’s good to see MSI trim off some of the footprint and bezels, without skimping on thermals and performance.

The balance of power and portability is really the most outstanding feature in this model. During my use, I never frowned upon it’s handling or usability as a productivity machine. Even for gaming, it’s a very capable model, granted you can deal with the heat.

You’re going to be hard pressed to find a laptop as thin and light as the GS63VR that holds a GTX 1060. The closest competitors are the Gigabyte Aero 15, Asus ROG GL502, the Acer Predator Helios 300 and the Acer Aspire V15 Nitro series, but even those models are about an inch thick, while laptops like the Lenovo Legion Y720 and Eluktronics P650 are even more massive. There are pros and cons to all these options, but if minimal size is what you’re looking for, the MSI GS63 is the one for you. Of course the GL502 series also has a GTX 1070 option, which may lead you down that path.

Now that the differences between the Best Buy -001 model are clear, it makes sense why there is such a large price break between it and the other FHD models. Granted that I don’t like the screen at all, $1549 is not a bad price for an i7 quad core and a GTX 1060 in such a small package. But if you want a better FHD screen, more SSD space and a better Wi-Fi card, $250 is well worth the upgrade in my opinion. That’s why for the good FHD option, I’d score this laptop at a 4/5 while the others I’d have to ding them a little and only give it a 3.75.

If you want a powerful and ultra-compact 15-inch laptop, the MSI GS63VR must be on your list

The only other hang-ups I have on the GS63VR are pretty minor. The cramped USB ports are annoying, the slow SD card reader is also a minor irritation. The coil whine is also slightly annoying, but that’s just something you have to deal with in some of these models. In the end, if you’re looking for the most portable 15” option with a powerful GPU, this is pretty much your only choice for now, and it’s a pretty good one.

That takes care of this review of the MSI Stealth Pro GS63VR and I hope it was informative. I won’t have either model more than a few more days, but if you have any questions about either, I’d be more than happy to help. Please leave a comment in the section below.

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Review by: Derek Sullivan
Derek Sullivan - Review Editor. In addition to being a tech enthusiast, I have a career as a Biomedical Engineer. I enjoy taking things apart, figuring out how they work, and finding ways to make them better. My other hobbies include spending time with my family, "Do it yourself" projects such as home automation, and running.

92 Comments

David

September 21, 2016 at 10:36 pm

Any new info on the Best Buy related screens?

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  September 21, 2016 at 10:51 pm
  
  Not from me but if anyone gets one, I’d like to hear what screen model they have and what they think of it.
  
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  - Giancarlo Benedetto
    
    September 22, 2016 at 3:06 pm
    
    Hi I have the best buy version… Is exactly the same as reviewed.. LP156WF6-SPK1… Is not great but is enough…
  - Francisco Ortiz
    
    January 5, 2017 at 5:00 pm
    
    I bought this same version cause i didnt look into it thinking as the gs60 series that all panels were the same….sucks i didnt..i live abroad and bought it at the BB…is it possible for u to try and better the colors with you spyder pro and the settings in the display controlpanel and let us know what setting u get…i also have the GS60 and have been playing around with this and found that tweaking the color settings a bit made a huge improvement, never will be like the IPS Lg or GS60 Samsung but definitely much better…maybe some day ill go crazy and swap it for the better lg panel but for now this will do as i plan on upgrading to a 512gb nvme and 32gb ram, alreayd swapped out the hdd for a 1tb ssd
  - Derek Sullivan
    
    January 5, 2017 at 5:16 pm
    
    There's no way to make it better. It's only capable of putting out the mediocre colors that it has. Calibration only makes the colors as true to their assignment – it doesn't add color.
    
    Have you checked to see if the connectors are the same on your GS60? If so, it's very possible you can swap that very panel you already have. Do a little homework on panellook and see if they are cross compatible first. Also, if you take the plunge, do yourself a favor and but a replacement bezel beforehand because it's really easy to break the little plastic clips.
    
    Sorry you got burned. The forums are full of people in your same situation. Unfortunately there's no way to tell for sure what models have what screens, but it appears that the Best Buy models are all low gamut screens.
  - Ehsan
    
    January 16, 2018 at 12:33 am
    
    Hi,
    I got mine 3 days ago (GS63 7rd 1050) from an online retailer named JD in China and screen model is LGD046F LP156WF6-SPB1, 72% NTSC IPS screen (1080). The colors and look pretty nice, viewing angles are perfect, but the screen is not bright enough. The other good things to mention are that first it has a higher capacity battery (65Wh) and second comes with a much smaller charger (135w).
    If you care about windows language do not buy from China since it comes with a single language pack (Chinese) and I had to delete it and install my university windows (education version).
- josh jewell
  
  September 28, 2016 at 3:14 am
  
  This review is for the model from best buy. I got one from Ibuypower.com and the screen is a sdc324c samsung ips. Which is way better.
  
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  - Derek Sullivan
    
    September 28, 2016 at 8:36 am
    
    Thank you for sharing that. That’s the same panel from the old GS60, which is actually a really nice one, imo.
  - Scott Brown
    
    March 24, 2017 at 5:59 am
    
    Which model? I am trying to figure out which one has this monitor. Right now I have the MSI Stealth Pro GS63VR230 in my cart waiting to buy. Which I am trying to do this weekend. Hopefully have it in a few weeks as not many company's ship to bases outside of the US.
Isaac

September 22, 2016 at 5:32 pm

Hey awesome review! I’ve been almost clicking the pay now button on this laptop for weeks haha. So would you recommend the 4k screen over the 1080p if I was to use it mainly for gaming, watching movies, web browsing and office work? Is the only disadvantage of the 4k screen the battery life and extra cost or are there a lot of scaling issues as well which makes it hard to see anything? Thanks!

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  September 23, 2016 at 11:55 am
  
  I honestly wouldn’t recommend the 4k screen on this one. On the 17″ version I give it a pass because it’s bright, full gamut and larger so the scaling is slightly more tolerable. But on the 15″ version, those three things aren’t the case and the battery life is pretty pitiful. The FHD screen has crummy colors though. You don’t notice it after using it a while but when you look at your phone or tablet in comparison, it’s a very noticeable difference.
  
  I’m still waiting on confirmation that the other FHD models might have better colors. Best Buy sells the -001 model, which is the one I reviewed. Others on Youtube have mentioned that their screens have 100% sRGB. If that’s the case, I’d go for those models but I’d still like to see someone confirm the actual panel part number.
  
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  - Aleksander Lyse
    
    September 30, 2016 at 6:32 am
    
    Im a bit confused about your reply here. In the article you are saying go the the 4K version, but here you wont recommend the 4K screen.
    
    I do have a small dilemma. The store accidentally sent me the FHD and the 4K version by a mistake, and I have to make a choice. I can send one of them back and keep the other one by not paying more for whatever I choose.
    
    Should I keep the 4K version or the FHD version (the FHD version got the LG panel).
  - Derek Sullivan
    
    September 30, 2016 at 7:27 am
    
    If you can deal with the diminished colors, you should probably keep the FHD model. The between scaling and battery life, you’ll probably be happier in the long run. I only would choose the 4k model based on the colors and the crispness of the image, but that’s just because it’s a pet peeve of mine. Really just go with what you think you can tolerate looking at for a few years. IT’s a good thing to have both in front of you to make an informed decision. I personally found both not to my liking though. Honestly, if there was a way to identify a model with a Samsung panel, I would have gone with that one.
Stephane

September 26, 2016 at 5:42 am

Hello,

I myself got the 4k version in August.
I can confrim everything in this great review.

Some hints on the slow SD card> disabel the Xboost fomr the msi software.
I though tI wa sunlucky and might need ot have the laptop replace as it was soooo solow for fil transfer.
I disabled the x turbo boost fo the disk and bang it worked great.

Also there is an issue with the Nahimic software and you need to diable it for skype for businees to work ( regular skyped works fine, but everyone complains a my low volume when I speak, I need to tune it better).

The 4k screen is great. And is not glossy.

The only down side, I had to pay 2500 euro to get it ( compared to 1500euro I paid the 4k version of the GS60 that I ended up returning), but the dell xps 15 was at 2400 euro here anyway.

And Size!!! The GS63 is smaller than the GS60.. significantly smaller.

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mystiq

September 28, 2016 at 9:55 am

hello, would you mind to review asus ROG STRIX GL502VS GTX1070 please ?

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  September 28, 2016 at 10:18 am
  
  Andrei usually reviews the Asus models. I don’t know if he has plans for that one, but I’ll ask.
  
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- Andrei Girbea
  
  September 28, 2016 at 3:13 pm
  
  I can’t promise, the GL502VS is not yet available over here and I don’t know if I can get a sample.
  
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  - mystiq
    
    September 30, 2016 at 9:29 am
    
    i see, i m looking forward to see the review on the asus STRIX GL502VS on this site,
    
    thanks in advance
Devin

September 29, 2016 at 10:40 am

I guess they reserve a USB 2.0 port to avoid the conflict between USB 3.0 and 2.4G wireless mice.

It may also lead to a better connectivity for 2.4G WiFi.

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- Andrei Girbea
  
  September 30, 2016 at 4:21 am
  
  It’s rather for backwards compatibility with older peripherals that might not work best with USB 3.0 . Those interferences can be resolved with shielding and other methods nowadays, I don’t think they should be a problem on a late-2016 laptop, at least in theory.
  
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Niels Woisin

September 30, 2016 at 4:59 am

The Warranty sticker is also meaningless in the EU and can be removed without loosing your warranty.

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Ryan

September 30, 2016 at 10:53 pm

If you look at the specs on MSI US website, the Best Buy version which is 001 is not even stated as IPS like the other models. It is “eDP Vivid Color 94%” which practically means the most horrible panel on the market. It also replaces the Killer wireless with Intel.
https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GS63VR-Stealth-Pro-6th-Gen-GTX-1060.html#hero-specification&sku_no=1763
I’m curious why this review isn’t listed on the Reviews page.

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  October 1, 2016 at 8:13 am
  
  Yeah, now that I’ve finally gotten some reliable sources on the panels for the other models, I’ll update the post. I don’t usually go straight from their spec sheet because they commonly have errors(4 speakers for example). I’m not even sure what Vivid 94% means because nothing on this panel is 94%, even on the actual spec sheet for the panel. It is still IPS though.
  
  I’ve actually seen the “better” IPS panel before and it is indeed a big improvement over the -001 model. I’ve seen it on other models, just not this one. In that case I would increase my score to 4 out of 5.
  
  What reviews page are you referring to?
  
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  - Ryan
    
    October 1, 2016 at 8:20 am
    
    https://www.ultrabookreview.com/reviews
    Couldn’t see this article over here.
  - Derek Sullivan
    
    October 1, 2016 at 8:36 am
    
    Hmm, that’s strange – I thought it was on there already. Andrei usually handles that page so I’ll ask him.
- Francisco Ortiz
  
  January 6, 2017 at 5:23 pm
  
  I actually dont mind intel ive had no issues with any of the intel stuff wheras one of my previous laptops had a kiler wifi card which gave me a subpar experience with driver sand signal drops
  
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Ryan

October 1, 2016 at 3:27 am

The difference between a $1550 model and a $1800 model would not be only 128GB of storage.
The panel and the wireless adapter are different as well. Best Buy’s 001 model features low quality panel and misses Killer wireless for cost down.
I’ve seen people posting the specs of their regular $1800 model with LGD046F, which is an average quality IPS panel commonly used for 15″ laptops.
As the model tested is a Best Buy special version, which is different from all other suppliers, it should probably be pointed out at the beginning.

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  October 1, 2016 at 8:35 am
  
  I added a small bite at the beginning and some more coverage in the screen section. Thanks!
  
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  - Ryan
    
    October 1, 2016 at 9:06 am
    
    Cheers. I actually bought the GS73 thanks to your review.
    I found the coil whine quite annoying at night. Luckily it can be turn down by disabling CPU C State. Although probably lose some battery life but it was totally worth it. I guess the thin aluminum case with plenty of vent holes might leak more coil whine noise than the other better sealed plastic model such as GL702.
  - Derek Sullivan
    
    October 1, 2016 at 2:05 pm
    
    I think I’ve tested so many laptops with this CPU, I’m beginning to tolerate it really well. In this model I didn’t find it as annoying on my lap, but I definitely noticed it when it was a few feet away. Different positions definitely affect the pitch and yes I bet those holes don’t help at all. I really hope the Kaby Lake quad core is better.
    
    What are you using to disable C states?
  - Ryan
    
    October 1, 2016 at 6:51 pm
    
    There is an option in BIOS
- Aleksander Lyse
  
  October 3, 2016 at 5:56 pm
  
  Just to make a note all middels i have seen being sold in Norway (probably Sweden and Denmark too) (full Hd version) got killer wifi, but the same panel as Best Buy 001 so beware :)
  
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Onigami

October 2, 2016 at 9:35 am

Hi Derek ! First of all thank you for your review , it made me buy this great laptop. But I have a noob question

I want to replace the HDD with a 1tb SSD. Is there something I have to be careful with before buying or can I go with any 2″5 SATA III SSD ? Like the Samsung

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- Onigami
  
  October 2, 2016 at 9:37 am
  
  Like the Samsung 850 Pro 1tb
  
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- Derek Sullivan
  
  October 2, 2016 at 3:22 pm
  
  Pretty much all ssd are thin enough to fit. I have an 840 evo in mine. 9mm is the max thickness I believe.
  
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  - Andrei Girbea
    
    October 2, 2016 at 6:07 pm
    
    Just a heads up, there are a few laptops that can only fit 7 mm 2.5″ SSDs. Not the case here, but worth adding, as those won’t be able to fit a 9 mm drive.
  - Onigami
    
    October 2, 2016 at 8:58 pm
    
    And all the cables I need are already in the laptop ?
  - Derek Sullivan
    
    October 3, 2016 at 6:39 pm
    
    If you mean power cable then yes, that’s all that comes with it
Devin

October 7, 2016 at 7:26 am

I finally purchase a 016CN model, which costs me $2100 (tax-included).

This model comes with:
Panel: LGD046F
GPU: GTX1060-6G GDDR5
RAM: 2x 8G Kingston DDR4-2400
SSD: 256GB Toshiba M.2 NVME THNSN5256GPU7
HDD: 1TB Seagate ST1000LM035
Lan: Killer E2400
Wi-Fi: Killer 1535

Another guy’s 016CN comes with a 256G SM951 and an 1TB HGST, while all other components remain the same.

Eh…Going to replace the HDD by a Sandisk Ultra II 960G. Note that: in China, the warranty will be avoided by breaking the sticker, and this is for GS series ONLY, which is a bad news for me.

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- Devin
  
  October 7, 2016 at 7:32 am
  
  Was going to buy a GS73, because it performs better. However, GS63 is already a heavy one (in my mind), and GS43VR is not lighter.
  
  Anyway, thank you for your review. The Heat and Battery life parts do help me a lot :)
  
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Ros

October 19, 2016 at 3:04 pm

Since the air intakes are on the top, can the laptop still be used for heavy loads (video editing premiere pro) with the lid closed?

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  November 3, 2016 at 9:37 am
  
  I did some minor testing with the lid closed and it added a few degrees to my temps. Everything still ran ok though. It wasn't anything more than 20 minutes though.
  
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manu

November 6, 2016 at 1:28 pm

I'm looking to buy this from Best buy, is it a bad choice? It's current on sale for 1499 at Best buy.

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  November 6, 2016 at 2:29 pm
  
  I'd say there's no harm in trying it out. Best buy has a really good return policy if you don't like it.
  
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Ryan

November 6, 2016 at 2:32 pm

Not a gamer at all but need something that will be good for editing GoPro videos. Was recommended this model. Would this be adequate?

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  November 6, 2016 at 4:05 pm
  
  Yeah, it should be fine for video editing. Just be cautious of the low gamut screen, if that's even a factor with the editing you plan to do.
  
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  - Ryan
    
    November 6, 2016 at 5:29 pm
    
    I am just using it primarily for my GoPro stuff. Had a regular asus for it but it just can't handle it. A friend directed me to this model. Said it should have no issues at all with the graphics card and processor.
James

November 15, 2016 at 4:34 am

Hi Derek! Thanks for a great article and for providing feedback regarding the different screen panels available for this model.
Can you please confirm the contrast ratio, the lack of PWM as well as the matrix structure (RGBW or RGB, pentile or not) for the 4K screen?

Thanks in advance,
James A.

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  November 15, 2016 at 1:16 pm
  
  I only got 360:1 even though the spec sheet says it should be 800:1. The blacks were very bright on the unit I had, which threw off the readings. I'm not sure what the subpixel looks like up close but it's RGBW and there is no PWM.
  
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  - James
    
    November 15, 2016 at 2:11 pm
    
    looks like the super low contrast rate will be a deal breaker for me. Unfortunately, the full hd panels look to be low quality as well. What a pitty, such a great looking notebook with such low quality screens.
james

November 20, 2016 at 5:16 pm

can you update the naming of a screenshot where you compare 2 screens side by side?
currently the name is "Screens – GS73 (left) and GS73 (Right)", but that is obviously not the case

thanks

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Josh P.

November 20, 2016 at 11:15 pm

hello Derek, I recently purchased this laptop a couple of days ago. I noticed it gets pretty hot during gaming sessions. I was just a bit curious if the temps i'm getting are fairly normal or should I be concerned? I've purchased a couple of games to test it out. I got overwatch which the CPU temp stays at about 70 to 80C depending if i'm in game or on a loading screen. I also recently purchased BF1 and have had a spike up to 87C while in game. Just curious if these high temps are safe or should I look for an alternative way to keep it cooler while in game.

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  November 21, 2016 at 12:56 am
  
  Those are pretty typical temps. The laptop is very thin and the gpu is powerful, so temps as high as 90 are to be expected when under heavy load.
  
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Jeffrey Baker

December 5, 2016 at 10:20 am

Can you please let me know the steps you took to use the razer core on the msi gs63vr? I currently have this laptop (best buy model), but I have heard mixed results on how the two work together.

Thanks!

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  December 5, 2016 at 10:39 am
  
  It was pretty much the same steps as if it were a razer blade. Maybe I just got lucky? I outlined my steps in the core review: https://www.ultrabookreview.com/10761-razer-core-review/
  
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  - Jeffrey Baker
    
    December 5, 2016 at 10:40 am
    
    Thanks a lot, and great review. I will take a look. I plan on getting the Core in the next month or so here, and would be happy to report back if I had the same success.
Miguel Pérez Borrajo

December 9, 2016 at 11:57 am

Hello Derek
thanks for your article

now, there is more choice that this moment, and I would like to ask you if you recommend ask a MSI with g-sync or with optimus.
And 4k or FullHD, do I will notice the diference?
I was thinking on this one
MSI GT62VR 6RE-094XES Intel Core i7-6700HQ/16GB/1TB+256SSD/GTX1070/15.6

thank you

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  December 9, 2016 at 1:31 pm
  
  I've never used the GT series so I cannot comment on them. I've heard good things from the users though. I only chose the GS series because of the size, so Gsync is not an option for me and I'm ok with that. I guess the question for you is, is size important enough to sway your decision? If not, I'd say go the GT route and enjoy the better video card and Gsync, at the same price points. As for 4k, if you don't do a lot of consumption and primarily use it for gaming, I'd stick with the FHD screen. It'll save money and a 120Hz screen with Gsync is going to look pretty amazing with a GTX 1070 driving it. I personally like the 4k screen, but I do all my work on this machine, not just gaming.
  
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James

December 15, 2016 at 7:55 am

hi
Any updates on the keuboard flex? how is it compared to ge62vr?

thanks!

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  December 15, 2016 at 8:00 am
  
  I was never able to improve it. I didn't have the laptop long though, so I wasn't able to put too much effort into trying.
  
  Sorry, I can't compare with the ge72 – never used one.
  
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Don

December 21, 2016 at 7:33 pm

Hello, do you know if i can upgrade 1080p panel to 4k panel. Do i need to buy 40 pin edp cable? Thanks.

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  December 22, 2016 at 4:11 pm
  
  I'm sure it's possible but I don't know if a new cable would be needed or not. If you know both of the panel numbers, you can look up the specs on panellook and see if they match. Odds are they are probably different though. If they are, you'll have to order the correct cable from MSI. Even then, that might be a long shot since they probably won't support it. You have to give them a S/N to do a parts order and I believe you can only purchase parts for the model you have.
  
  Good luck though. If you do it, please take pictures and post how you did it in the forums. That kind of info is gold.
  
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Dan

January 5, 2017 at 3:28 am

Did you ever get around to undervolting the gs63vr?

Can you point me in a direction to a guide for undervolting for beginners?

Enjoyed the review, thanks!

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  January 5, 2017 at 8:44 am
  
  Only the gs73vr but it's pretty much the same laptop besides the size. I ended up selling for a -160mv undervolt. I posted my results in the gs73vr article.
  
  You can use Doug's article as a resource: https://www.ultrabookreview.com/10167-laptop-undervolting-overcloking/
  
  There's also the throttle stop forums, but that can be a little overwhelming. I personally used sometimes Reddit post on specifically undervolting the i7-6700hq.
  
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Francisco Ortiz

January 6, 2017 at 5:20 pm

I agree one will never get it as my GS60s panel but tweaking the Saturation,Hue, RGB settings and Also display calinration in windows improved the experience by alot. Still not GS60 quality but definitely maybe A good TN panel Quality whereas stock it was just 500 dollar laptop 720p bad.

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Francisco Ortiz

January 6, 2017 at 5:26 pm

Hey Dave, Assuming i get the urge and try to swap panels where cna i order both bezels from, or maybe il just order another LG panel online if I can source one, or can you point me in the right direction??? Ill need a bezel for the GS60 which would keep the Lg panel and one for the GS63 to which id put the samsung panel.

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  January 6, 2017 at 5:47 pm
  
  I'm assuming you're asking me and not Dave. :) You can order the bezels directly from MSI. I ordered a replacement one for my GS60 a while back and I believe it ran me about $30. All they need is your serial number for your unit so they can match up the parts. One thing you can't do thoug his order parts outside your model number. That's the way it is in the US at least.
  
  As for the 3k screen, I really liked it on my old GS60. I've seen it for sale on ebay but I don't know if the connector would be compatible or not. If not, you would need to purchase one and I'm not sure how you would do that other than ordering one through MSI under a 3k GS60 S/N. I think that screen would be perfect for the GS63VR considering the 1060 would be able to play a lot of games at that resolution with no problem. If that had been the screen in the model I had, I would have chosen the GS63VR over the GS73VR most likely.
  
  If you do replace it with a 3k screen, please take some pictures to share. I'd like to share that news with everyone.
  
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Francisco Ortiz

January 6, 2017 at 5:32 pm

Dave what do you think about the GS60 3k Panel i think i can source one of those at a decent price?

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Francisco Ortiz

January 6, 2017 at 6:02 pm

Crap Derek im sorry was thinking bout a coworker!!!!!!!!hahahhaa

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Francisco Ortiz

January 6, 2017 at 6:09 pm

Yeah All the GS40 panels ive found are 40 pins where the GS63vR i have has 30 pins, i also saw a Whole LCd assembly with bezels and cables on ebay from a GS60 so that might be the way to go as i dont have to touch my GS60. Or maybe seource a 40 pin edp cable

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- Francisco Ortiz
  
  January 7, 2017 at 11:59 pm
  
  GS60 Sorry!
  
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Francisco Ortiz

January 8, 2017 at 12:07 am

Found a full LCD asembly off a GS60 with a 3K screen, cables and everything…..gonna try and order the extra bezel off MSI. Im gonna take the plunge and will swap the 128Gb m2 drive for a 512gb 960evo and 32gb ram while im at it. Will try and get this all done once i get all the parts..will keep u posted!!

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Francisco Ortiz

January 10, 2017 at 1:37 am

Hey Derek, How cna i order the extra bezel, the lcd panel is on its way so is the NVME SSD, decided to stay with 16gb of ram cause i dont think i need or will need 32gb so saved that money for later. Hope with the new panel and SSD ill be able to get 2 to 3 years of gooduse of this one…also ordered a INTEL 8265 wifi module

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Francisco Ortiz

January 23, 2017 at 5:22 pm

Hey Derek So I went ahead and discarded the 3k Deal…I returned it as i just decided i didnt want to mess with that much stuff..On the bright side i did manage to find a brand new LTN156HL01 Screen for 67 dollars shipped, and guess what i bought it, and replace that awful screen with this, and its night and day..I had no issues taking the bezel off just had to go about it carefully and once i got one clip off the bottom i realized what direction we are supposed to slide them to so as not to break them andnow i have a great laptop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now im waiting on my nvme ssd so i can swap the ssd out for a 480gb unit and ill be done!!!!!!!! Also i went to bb since they had lowered the price on the laptop in my return window they gave me a 110 dollar gift card. And now my laptop has a Samsung PLS disply with 300nit brightness and vivid colors, probably too vivid all for 1520 more or less, once i get that nvme ssd in it i think its a bargain, hope this helps anyone out there who is in mysituation, you dont have to feel sorry about yourself just do something about it,i was not going to settle for a subpar experience on what i believe is a great machine just cause some coporate thinkers thought it be best for business…my 2 cents!!!!!!!!

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  January 23, 2017 at 5:51 pm
  
  That's awesome! Thanks for sharing and I'm glad it worked out.
  
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Francisco Ortiz

January 23, 2017 at 6:09 pm

Thanks…and i really truly apprecuate all your work and help,without your writeups i couldnt have found the courage to get into it

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Francisco Ortiz

February 2, 2017 at 2:54 am

Hey Derek Quick followup…thanks to your instructions i managed to upgrade the ssd for a 480gb BPX NVME UNit getting around 2500 read and 1600 write. Very happy with the machine now…didi a clean install and alll is well.

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  February 2, 2017 at 2:22 pm
  
  That's great! Thanks for the feedback.
  
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Lee lie

December 13, 2017 at 4:36 am

Can i charge laptop using thunderbolt 3 for daily used.

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  December 13, 2017 at 7:59 am
  
  No, not on this one.
  
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ninjataki

March 16, 2018 at 7:15 am

Hi Derek. Been researching this laptop like mad, tho yeah there are a few diff configs arent there! I'm late in on this, its now March 2018 but hey im in Australia and all we get is BS like late as and at total BS prices. Anyway I want this form factor and trust MSI so I'm sold on this laptop. HOWEVER!

Now we have choices here of 1060 or 1070 MaxQ. also theres the 15 or 17" decision. I'm hearing mixed things. Some reviews claim good temps on the 17" but all reviews i read claim bad on 15". I want to ask you so many things but I'll collect my main thoughts and number them k.

1. I don't game much but 'might'. Will do video eds eg Sony Vegas. I care more about screen color etc. Dont want the TN. Dont want 4k cause kill the b attery (at least on the 15, dunno the 17) Is there a way to know through windows what panel your getting in the panel lottery? I refuse to buy the LG screen, especially for the BS price we gotta pay here.

2. Do you think due to having more space the 17" will run cooler than the 15? I prefer 15 size however temp is imperative to me for component longevity!

3. I've heard MSI were slack and didnt bother to accommodate the MaxQ properly, they just dumped it in and altered nothing about the cooling. Hence getting bad reps on the 1070maxq combos.. sadly. Like I said before, cooling is primary to me even more than having a sparkling 1070. Im wondering if the 17" 1060 + IPS config is best for screen and cooling overall.. what do you think? I heard that 1070 maxq is only marginally better than 1060 non maxq anyway.

I appreciate your help a lot! This laptop excites me, Im currently typing on my Travelmate 5720 with HD2600! My other lappy is DV6-6135tx with HD6770m (now a class 3 mid card but hey it holds up well considering its 2011 model!)

THANK YOU KINDLY!

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  March 16, 2018 at 8:04 am
  
  First off, don't waste your money on the max-q. It's far too expensive and if you don't game much, it's worthless.
  
  Now onto the form factor; I think since you don't want Tn or 4k, you're pretty much locked into the 15" version. As far as I know, those are the only two options for the 17". Probably for the best because the 15" form factor is way more portable feeling.
  
  Unfortunately I don't know which models have which screen. You probably have to consult the forums to determine that. I did just recently get a "whitebook" model on eBay that had a higher quality LG screen in it. It's actually quite good and probably equal to Samsung's top FHD panel.
  
  In regards to heat, both laptops reach high thermals. I think the GS63VR probably gets hotter in the center and if it's on your lap. But in all honesty, if you're not doing heavy gaming, it's probably not going to affect you all that much.
  
  Hope this helps. Let me know if you have more questions.
  
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  - ninjataki
    
    March 16, 2018 at 8:55 am
    
    Thanks for a fast reply! After reading your 17" review im leaning towards the 4k. However I notice here in Aus they all list "IPS level 4k", isnt that tn? models say MSI GS73VR 7RF-296AU, with another same but 239au, then another 240au. But nothing appears different in the specs! but price is vastly different. Extremely confusing!!
    
    I dunno.. 15.. 17.. ughhhhh
  - Derek Sullivan
    
    March 16, 2018 at 9:46 am
    
    I'm not aware of any 4k TN screens on the market. I could take a look at any links you have.
  - Andy
    
    March 17, 2018 at 9:18 am
    
    I read somewhere that the saying "ips level" was code for "great TN", they might have been off.
    
    Sorry for all the questions, it's just your reviews was the most practical comprehensive i've found and I really do have my heart set on this lappy but need to get the config right first go cause it is a lot of money.
    
    I'm picking up a vibe that the 17" is not proportional to the 15", meaning it loses a ton of that great portability for a meager gain of those 2". I've never held the 17" in RL, only the 15". If that statement is true then I'll go the 15" Perhaps thats the reason the 15" is redicolously expensive here in AUS but the 17" is actually cheaper!
    
    Dam so for my purpose of business, Vid editing and very occasional gaming (I dont play shooters, just like sim city etc strategy maybe the odd Jap Sexy Beach style game haha), you think the 120hz is a no-go? That would leave FHD panel-lottery or batt draining but good quality panel 4k.. what would you do? Also if I follow your undervoltage thing i can keep heat off right?
  - Derek Sullivan
    
    March 17, 2018 at 10:11 am
    
    So, for the "IPS level" concern – yes, for many manufacturers, it usually means PLS, AHVA or even really nice TN. It's very vague and I don't like the smoke and mirrors, but most manufacturer's marketing teams these days advertise that way. In the case of the 4k GS73VR, the panel is AHVA, which is very hard to distinguish from IPS.
    It's actually a really nice screen(assuming they haven't changed it since I had reviewed the Skylake model).
    
    What's really frustrating is resellers tend to just transpose the specs they get from MSI, which sometimes have errors. I haven't checked recently but when I was originally reviewing this and the GS73VR, almost everyone had the wrong screen and most had at least one spec wrong. It also really drives me crazy that they all put the same MSI marketing graphics, which basically have *ALL* the highlights of all models. So sometimes screen features that do not exist with that specific model makes determining the specs quite difficult. Even a couple custom PC builders claimed the GS73VR had a 120Hz true IPS screen, which is completely false. I even emailed them to verify and they did so, but were wrong and lost all credibility with me to this day.
    
    Yes, I've seen the same in the US – in many stores the 17" version is actually cheaper. It's mainly because the demand is lower and almost all of the components are exactly the same as the 15" model. Believe it or not, the only differences are the screen, battery and the case, which probably have identical costs to the 15" equivalents. As far as proportionality goes, the 17" model is pretty much in line actually. It's still actually one of the most portable 17" laptops available. But in comparison to the 15" model, it's 1.5lb heavier and almost 1.5" wider, which might make it difficult to put in some backpacks. It fit perfectly in mine though, which is why I kept it for so long. I have the GS63VR now though and thoroughly enjoy the lighter and thinner experience, while keeping the same hardware inside. The 180 degree hinge is also nice. Either way you go is nice – it'll just depend on your weight preferences and ultimately your screen choice.
    
    For your purposes, I'd avoid the 120Hz screen. It's really for gaming and not worth losing the benefits of IPS. The 4k screen on the 17" model is really nice(again assuming it hasn't changed) but also uses more battery. Worth the sacrifice in my opinion? Yes, but keep in mind that the programs you use for video editing might not scale well. My wife had this issue and ended up having to switch the resolution to FHD to do work. YMMV
    
    If you go 15", you'll have to deal with the lottery. After getting this whitebook GS63 model, this is the 5th screen I've heard of in this model to date. The 4k version is nice but is a battery hog. And for the FHD version, 3 out of the 4 are fine, with the 4th being atrocious(in my review). 1 out of the good 3 has PWM, but that may not affect you(I never notice).
    
    Worst case scenario, if you lose the lottery, you could always change the screen yourself. I tried it on the model I have now and it's not really that hard – it just depends on how handy you are and if you have the right tools. I could walk you through it if it came to that.
    
    For your last question, yes UV will help with heat. I also repasted with LM to further lower temps but I would not recommend that unless you really know what you are doing and are willing to take the risk.
Andy

March 19, 2018 at 7:30 am

So after much thought I realized that 4k in a 15" just doesn't seem right. But in the 17" it works better imo, especially for my purpose of vid pro- adding real estate etc.

The last thing to consider was that the 1060 can't really take advantage of the 4k (if I were to actually hit it with a high grade game), whereas if I were to go the 1070 + 4k + 17" aren't I hitting a good relatively safe future proof balance?

That plan sounded great BUT that combo doesn't seem to exist in Australia! WTH!! It seems though I can get the !7" 4K 1060 here cheapest of all the combo's !? Go figure. So question is whether to go for that or hold out for a future 1070 4k 17" to hit that safe ground..

What do you think oh oracle of the laptop world Derek my friend?

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  March 19, 2018 at 8:59 am
  
  Do you mean for games? If so a yes the 1060 is a little lacking for 4k. You would have to switch to FHD settings. But for everything else, the 1060 is more than enough. What programs are you planning on running?
  
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  - Andy
    
    April 1, 2018 at 6:27 am
    
    My apologies Derek on not replying sooner. Actually I've made up my mind and I'll quickly share why.
    
    Form Factor and 180. I want the tight form factor of the 15", even over the 17". I though about other high end but cheaper alts like Asus rog gamer/Zeph and Acer Triton but only the MSI can open lid 180 which I need to use under my desk (like a keyboard) connected to an ext monitor.
    
    I wont settle for a 1060, I want the future proofing and 4k pushing power of the 1070 minimum. I'm willing to play the panel lottery and wont get 4k 15".
    
    So now it's very simple for me. I will sit tight and wait for a good GS63VR 7RG deal :) In the meantime my DV6 and Acer 5720's will tide me over.
  - Derek Sullivan
    
    April 1, 2018 at 6:38 am
    
    Nice, I'm glad you got it figured out.
Bruno Monjon

May 27, 2020 at 12:53 am

Hello guys, I have this ultrabook, but 1 integrated component has fried. Could you help me finding this component? its name is AKVA625, I've no ideia where to find it…

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- Derek Sullivan
  
  May 27, 2020 at 2:06 am
  
  I’m not sure. Where are you getting that model number if the part is fried?
  
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