I’ve always preferred more portable laptops and not so much the bigger beefier ones out there. Alienware has had a warm place in my heart though, especially since I was a longtime owner of the m11x. Of course the m11x was still considered very portable at the time, but over the years, I’ve had less and less interest in laptops over 1” thick.
I’ll admit that I’ve always been a little envious of 17-inch laptops though, but I’ve been hung up on three things: low dpi screens, size and cost. Fix two of those three issues and I might be interested. That’s why when I recently found a heck of a deal on the new Alienware 17 R3, I just had to try it.
The model I got and tested in this post includes a Skylake quad-core processor, Nivida GTX 980M graphics, NVMe storage and a 4K screen. Minus a better CPU option, this unit is pretty much the most you can put into a laptop. After a couple weeks of using it, I’ve gotten to know it quite well and all I have to say so far is that I’m really liking it.
Check out why in the sections below.
The specs sheet
|
Dell Alienware 17 R3 |
| Screen |
17.3 inch, 3840 x 2160 px resolution, IGZO IPS, matte, non-touch |
| Processor |
Intel Skylake Core i7-6700HQ CPU, quad-core 2.6 GHz, 3.5Ghz turbo |
| Chipset |
Intel HM170 |
| Video |
Integrated Intel HD 530 HD + Nvidia GeForce GTX 980M 4GB |
| Memory |
16 GB DDR4 2133 PC4-17000 |
| Storage |
1x 256 GB M.2 SSD NVMe + 1TB HDD 7200rpm |
| Connectivity |
Killer N1535 Wireless AC , Killer E2400 ethernet, Bluetooth 4.0 |
| Ports |
3x USB 3.0, 1x USB Type-C(Thunderbolt 3) HDMI 2.0, RJ45,Alienware graphics amplifier, mic, earphone, SD card reader |
| Baterry |
92 Wh |
| Operating system |
Windows 10 |
| Size |
430 mm or 16.93” (w) x 291.9 mm or 11.49” (d) x 34.4 mm or 1.354” (h) |
| Weight |
3.78 kg or 8.33 lb |
| Extras |
Multi-colored keyboard backlighting and accent lights, backlit trackpad, HD camera |
Design and exterior
Let’s be clear on this first – this is not a very portable machine. But it is quite a bit thinner and lighter than the old m17x I remember seeing in stores a few years back. Weighing just over 8 lbs and being nearly an inch and a half thick, I struggled a little bit picking it up with one hand. It’s certainly possible to do though and I’m a little more at ease now that I’ve had to lug it around my house for the past couple weeks. This is something I could certainly live with.
Overall, the build quality is pretty good – about as good as I remembered with the m11x. It’s mostly plastic, but the lid is made of aluminum. The plastic they chose to use was good quality though and feels like it could take a beating over time. I can certainly see this machine staying clean for the most part, with exception to the palm rest. During my short usage it was obvious to see when my palms were sweaty. Being plastic though, it was very easy to wipe up and get clean again.
The lid is made with a piece of silver anodized aluminum. The top strip is plastic and there are also come cutouts in the aluminum for the lights and the Alienware logo. The logo’s eyes will glow in the same color as the cutouts on the lid, which you have multiple different colors to choose from. The cuts and angles on the lid are very unique, but surprisingly not over the top in being too flashy. If anything, the lights do that, but you can turn them off. Minus the Alienware head, you could probably get away with using this laptop professionally, if you wanted.
Opening the lid is a two handed task. The hinge is just too strong to do it with just a finger. Underneath, you’ll see a full layout keyboard and underneath that is a trackpad, which is kind of small in my opinion, but gets the job done. I’ll get more into these two later. The power button is located centrally above the keyboard and the indicator lights are located on the upper left.
The screen on my model is a matte 4K panel. It’s surrounded by a plastic bezel, which is relatively thin on all the edges except the bottom. Also on the bottom is the Alienware logo, which can also illuminate to whatever color you desire.
Connectivity options are pretty abundant on this laptop. On the left edge, you have the power connector, Noble Lock Port, 2x USB 3.0, microphone and headphone. Their placement is very intuitive and I was able to use them in dark rooms with zero issues.
On the right hand side, starting from the back is the gigabit Ethernet connection. In front of that you have a single USB 3.0 port, followed by a USB-C 3.1 port which is also Thunderbolt 3 capable. Finally, there’s a 3-in-1 card reader, which also comes with a slot cover.
On the back edge, you have the exhaust vents on each side for both the CPU and GPU. In the center, there’s also a couple more connections – an HDMI 2.0 port and a special connection which is used to attach an Alienware Graphics Amplifier.
There aren’t any connections on the front side, but instead there are front facing speakers. This is a welcome departure to bottom facing speakers and makes good use of all the real estate they have on the front lip. Along the bottom of the speakers there are some more light effects which can also be changed to the color you desire.
Finally, on the bottom, you have the intake vents for both the CPU and GPU. In this reviewer’s opinion, Dell did a very good job with these. They are so big that air couldn’t be blocked by my legs, no matter how hard I tried. Off to the side there’s also a built in subwoofer, while in the center there’s a panel held on by two screws, which could be opened to upgrade the hard drives and RAM.
Keyboard and trackpad
Dell certainly keeps up their good track record with keyboards (at least from my experience) with the Alienware 17. The keys are laid out very well and are properly spaced apart. There’s plenty of space to have proper sized keys, such as the right shift and arrow keys, which I really appreciate.
I was immediately able to adapt to it and type naturally. After using it for only an hour, I scored a 47 wpm on a typing test, and I typically score 50ish on the keyboards I’m used to. The keys have excellent feedback and good travel. Touch typists should have no issues getting used to this one.
Like all previous Alienware keyboards, it is backlit and you have the ability to control the color of the backlighting. It’s not like on Razer or MSI devices where you have millions of color choices out of the box, but Dell gives plenty of options to choose from and the colors look even throughout the keyboard. Oddly enough, Dell removed white from the color choices, possibly because the trackpad looked a little pinkish. But if you’re comfortable editing the config files with a text editor, you can pretty much choose white and any other color by editing the color hex codes.
Unfortunately they neglect something that pretty much every other gaming laptop has – the ability to disable the Windows key. It’s kind of comical because I literally have had that feature for a few years in the laptops I’ve owned, but have never needed it…until now. For some reason I just can’t stop pressing it on the Alienware 17 and it drove me nuts enough to download Autohotkey to disable it.
The only other notable feature of the keyboard is the hotkeys placed above the NumPad and on the left hand side. You can map each of these to do pretty much whatever you want. On top of that you have a quick switcher on the left hotkeys that changes their color and switches between profiles. Until you get used to the keyboard, you’ll probably hit that switcher key in place of the Esc a lot. Luckily it doesn’t do anything except switch profiles, but if you’re trying to pause in a hurry, you may fail.
The trackpad is nothing special really. It’s not bad, but definitely nothing to brag about. For starters, I found it kind of small – especially considering there’s so much space for something larger. The buttons are also kind of mushy, but they work good enough to do what you need to.
It’s a Synaptics touchpad so the drivers and gestures were pretty familiar and I was able to optimize the settings to my liking. I’m used to buttonless trackpads and I was still able to use it as if it didn’t have buttons (two finger taps for right clicks work fine). I did appreciate the buttons on long drags though, so it’s a plus to have them.
My biggest gripe with the trackpad is the texture. They could have gone a little smoother on this one as it’s a little too cheap feeling for my taste. I was able to track properly and initiate multi-touch gestures pretty well for the most part, but only after I updated the drivers and meddled with the sensitivity settings a lot. Long story short, I could live with it.
One added feature, pretty useless in my opinion though, is the trackpad’s backlight, which glows whenever you touch the surface. You can set it to any color, just like you can on the keyboard. It’s cool to look at for a few minutes but I just don’t see any practical use for this other than showing off. The trackpad is so recessed into the palm rest that I could not imagine not being able to find it without the backlight on.
Screen
The model I received has a 17.3-inch 3840 x 2160 px resolution panel, made by AU Optronics(part number B173ZAN). Let me come right out and say it – this screen is absolutely beautiful! Not only is it an IGZO IPS screen with excellent viewing angles, it’s also full gamut, covering 100% of the sRGB spectrum. The colors look absolutely amazing and I officially take back all of my prior opinions on full gamut screens being overkill. This is my new favorite panel.
Looking closely, I couldn’t find any dead pixels or even a hint of backlight bleed. That’s not to say it’s not possible though, because a couple of buyers on the forums have complained about minor bleed in the corners. The screen is so darned bright though, so I can imagine some that are overly sensitive to it would complain a little.
It’s hard to complain about anything else though, but if I had to pick anything to improve, I guess it could the matte finish. It’s not as bad as on other Dell monitors I’ve seen in the past but it’s still pretty thick. Not as bad as where the image becomes distorted or anything – so don’t worry about that. It’s more like it’s at the high limit of my comfort zone.
Again, the picture quality is probably the best I’ve seen on a UHD laptop, having superb colors right out of the box and good contrast. I took some measurements using my colorimeter and the gamut, of course, measured to be 100% sRGB, 95% NTSC and 99% aRGB. Other specs I measured was a contrast ratio of 640:1, which started to break at around 30-40% brightness and of course gets crushed at 0% brightness.
Speaking of brightness, Dell advertises the panel to be 400-nits. My measurements were pretty close but not quite that high. It could be the matte finish or the accuracy of the instrument, but I’m still impressed with the results. The maximum brightness measured out to 355 nits and blacks, at that brightness, measured at .56 nits. Outdoors, the screen is perfectly viewable in the sunlight, with only minor color washout. I was able to use it on my pool deck at 1pm with no glare issues.
I also checked the brightness distribution, which you can see below. This panel is about as evenly lit as I’ve ever measured, so no complaints here. Again, the max was 355, not 400, but it’s still plenty bright enough.
Also it should be noted that my measurements while on battery were nearly the same as when on power.
Hardware and performance
My Alienware 17 came with an Intel Core i7-6700HQ quad core CPU and an Nvidia GTX 980M GPU. The 980M I received has 4GB of VRAM, which is plenty enough for me. But if you want more, rest assured because the newer units sold all have 8GB of VRAM. My unit also came with 16GB of DDR4 2133 Ram, so there’s little need to upgrade it any further. If you wanted to though, this laptop supports 2 x 16GB chips according to the forums.
Also equipped in my unit was a 256GB M.2 SSD and a 1TB 7200rpm HDD. The SSD I have is a Samsung PM951, which is NVMe, but not the fastest when it comes to write speeds. There’s also an empty M.2 slot in there so you can add extra storage if you desire. I’m told the 1st bay is x4 and the second is x2 but they are both SATA compatible as well, so you have a lot of storage options available – including putting two SATA drives in RAID.
I ran all the typical benchmarks to test both the CPU and GPU on this unit. The only surprise was the PCMark score, which was actually lower than previous Haswell models I’ve seen. But other benchmarks actually lined up as expected. Here are my results:
- 3Dmark 11: P11294 with CPU at 67°C and GPU at 58°C;
- 3Dmark 13: Cloud Gate – 18463, Sky Diver – 20353, Fire Strike – 8148;
- PCMark 08: Home Conventional – 2764, Home Accelerated- – 3183;
- CineBench 11.5: OpenGL 47.88 fps, CPU 7.43 pts, CPU Single Core 1.44 pts;
- CineBench R15: OpenGL 62.95 fps, CPU 680 pts, CPU Single Core 129 pts.
I also tested out a couple games and was very happy with both how they performed and how cool the Alienware 17 stayed while under load. I’ll discuss the cooling in more detail in a little bit, but here were the gaming scenarios and my results:
- Fallout 4– Ran from one end of the Commonwealth to the other, constantly looking and shooting all over the place.
- Ultra settings, Max AA and AP 1080p – Solid 60fps with occasional drops to 55fps. Solid performance!
- Default high settings at 4k – 25-33fps.
- Default medium settings at 4k – 30-40fps
- Peak CPU temp 72°C, peak GPU temp 64°C
- Crysis 3– Played through the opening scene for 10 minutes
- Very High settings, no AA 1x AF, 1080p – 46-58fps
- High settings, no AA, 1x AF, 1080p – 60fps with minor drops to 55fps
- Medium settings, no AA, 1x AF, 4k – 25-36fps
- Peak CPU temp 78°C, peak GPU temp 72°C
- Dragon Age: Inquisition – Walked around one of the first camps and got into a battle. Played for about 10 minutes for each session.
- Default ultra settings at 1080p – 35-40fps
- Default high settings at 1080p – 60fps
- Default high settings at 4k – 20-25fps
- Default medium settings at 4k – 30-35fps
- On battery: Ultra 1080p settings – 20-30fps
- Peak CPU temp 74°C, peak GPU temp 66°C
As you can see, the 980M in the Alienware 17 is fully capable of handling even the most demanding games at 1080p resolutions. At 4K though, it’s barely enough to be considered “playable”. This is what I expected though as I still don’t think we’re ready for 4K gaming on mobile devices.
I was also able to monitor the VRAM in the games I played. The most usage I saw was only 3GB, so for most of you the 4GB model would be enough. 8GB is certainly overkill, but makes this machine highly futureproof though, so if you’re a modder or one to keep laptops for many years, the 8GB model might be the model for you.
Graphics Amplifier
One feature that I can’t review here, but thought I should discuss, is the Alienware Graphics Amplifier. There is a dedicated port on the back of the laptop which allows a connection to an external GPU. This requires an Alienware Graphics Amplifier, which is available to purchase in many stores such as Amazon, Best Buy and Dell.
You’ll be able to configure it with any recent graphics cards, including the GTX Titan or 980, which can output to all of the monitors that you can hook up to the card. This would certainly improve the graphics performance, depending on the card you choose to use. It may not be so relevant with the 980M version of the Alienware 17, but it opens up more options for the lower end models.
Unfortunately I don’t have one to test out, so I can’t offer any more info on it. I might buy one in the future, but I’m holding off to see when the Razer Core comes out. My hopes are the Razer Core will be compatible with the Alienware 17 since it has a Thunderbolt 3 port. Stay tuned for that. Unfortunately the Razer Core does not play well with the Alienware 17. I can’t get the laptop to recognize it at all. I suspect a firmware update is needed for the Thunderbolt 3 port, similar to the update the XPS 15 got for the Dell dock. Either that or I have a bad Thunderbolt 3 port.
Noise, Heat, Connectivity, Speakers and others
Being as big as it is, Dell certainly had enough space to put a decent cooling system in this laptop. As I mentioned before, the intake vents on the bottom are very large. This makes them difficult to block when using the computer on your lap, which is a good thing. In fact, when those fans are spinning, it actually feels great to have a breeze rushing my by knees.
The only trouble I’ve found, though, is through normal tasks. The fan profiles that Dell set for this machine favor quietness, which is both good and bad. The fans are basically at a minimum speed for normal tasks, which keeps things quiet. Unfortunately the heat just builds up though and it only gets removed when it hits a particular level – a high one in my opinion.
I took some thermal readings on the top and the bottom, both during normal usage and my Fallout 4 test. I also took some readings with the fans turned all the way up. Here were my results:
*Daily Use – 1080p Youtube clip in Edge for 30 minutes
*Load – playing Fallout 4 for 30 minutes
*Fans Fully Blowing – set at 5000 rpm from HWInfo while playing games
So as you can see, the normal load values aren’t all that much different than the gaming results. In fact, I was actually surprised of those gaming numbers since gaming on the lap was actually pretty comfortable, for the most part. I certainly wasn’t expecting to get values in the 45°C range. It could be the convection from the breeze by my legs that aided in the comfort. Still, it’s a huge improvement over the comfort of my left leg while gaming with my GS60 (which reaches 50°C under heavy load).
Moving on to the internals, at no point in all my testing did the CPU ever break 80°C. Specifically, the maximum reading I recorded was 78°C and that was after a long gaming session of Crysis 3. The GPU faired even better, only reaching a maximum of 72°C. This is pretty good considering some of the thinner rivals often reach temps over 90°C on both the GPU and CPU, and it’s a strong selling point for thicker laptops with high end cards.
Moving onto the fan noise, I was really impressed with what I experienced. It can also be attributed to the thicker form factor, because Dell could use larger fans at a lower rpm to remove heat. I used my sound app to measure the noises the fan made in a quiet room. Here’s what I got:
- Ambient noise in the room: 22dB;
- Idling with lowest CPU fan speed, GPU fan off: 25dB;
- Both fans on: 25dB;
- Max measure during gaming: 30dB;
- Maximum fan speeds using HWinfo: 40 dB .
With these results, you can see the fan noise was relatively light, even while gaming. You can also see that the fans aren’t fully utilized either though. HWinfo was able to raise the fans to their highest level, which I never experienced in any gaming session. So there is certainly potential to get even cooler temperatures that I witnessed above.
Since I brought up HWinfo, I want to point out another feature that Alienware continues to miss – fan control. There’s no real good way to control the fans and I think they should really start to listen to their customers on this one. The easiest way is to use HWmonitor, which isn’t that easy at all. I still haven’t figured out how to edit the EC profile like others have and I have only been able to turn the fans on full blast or half speed. The other alternative is to turn on high performance mode in the bios, which merely ramps the fans to full speed at all times. That’s probably something you will want to do if you only play games on headphones or use your laptop permanently as a desktop server or something.
I did do a minor amount of testing with the fans at full speed. I played a one hour Fallout 4 session on Ultra at 1080p. The max CPU temperature was only 64° with the average being 56°. The GPU never passed 56° and hovered around 54° for the most part. It also felt very comfortable on my lap and I didn’t mind the fan noise since the speakers were so loud. I’d probably do this for long gaming sessions, but it is annoying I have to launch HWinfo to do it.
One last thing I’d like to mention is the level of improvement many have experienced through repasting the CPU and GPU. Of course, this is no straight forward task, but the Alienware community is quite large and the successes from repasting have been documented. Many have also made guides on how to do it, which is super important to first time repasters (is that a word?). You’ll find them on various forums, Google is your friend here.
Radios – For connectivity, Alienware decided to go with the Killer N1535 Wireless AC, which like the N1525, is a great wireless card to have. For my couple weeks of usage, I had a pretty solid connection for the most part. I did have a couple drops early on but after updating my drivers, I’ve been good to go since. At 30 feet from my router, I reached download speeds of over 60Mbps. There is also a Killer E2400 gigabit Ethernet controller onboard and of course a Bluetooth 4.0 controller embedded with the WiFi chip.
Speakers – I did my homework before purchasing the Alienware 17 and one of the constants in most of the reviews I read was the sub-standard sound it had. Maybe they were talking about the r2 version, but I really don’t think it’s that bad at all. If anything, it’s one of the better sounding speakers I’ve heard on a gaming laptop since the Y50.
The Alienware 17 has two front facing speakers on the front edge of the laptop, so the sound isn’t muffled unless you are smothering that edge for some reason. There is also a subwoofer on the bottom to handle the lows, so the front speakers can concentrate on the highs and mids.
What makes the Alienware unique over other laptops is the decent control the Soundblaster EQ software gives you. You can go as far as setting the frequencies to gains that you choose, or settle for the presets they choose for you. You can also set the bass level for the subwoofer, adjust surround sound levels and even turn the loudness setting on.
After a little tweaking, I was able to get some killer sounds out of this thing. Even to the point where I did long sessions without headphones at all. The maximum decibels I could achieve was 90dB, which far exceeds the fan noise. At no point did I experience any cracking or popping, but I’m sure if I messed with the sound settings inappropriately, that could happen.
With the subwoofer all the way up, I was able to distinguish the bass at frequencies as low as 20Hz. Don’t get too excited though – this is still a small speaker. You’re not going to hear any thumping or feel the vibration or anything. It’s just a step up from the tinny speakers found on most other notebooks.
In short, I’m pretty happy with the sound. Maybe others were expecting more or I’m just not an audiophile, but I would be perfectly content playing games on this laptop without headphones. There’s not a single gaming notebook I’ve used before where I could say that, except the Lenovo Y50(Y500, Y510p, etc).
Battery life
Using HWinfo, I was also able to test the discharge rate at certain conditions and estimate how long the laptop would last in those cases. Wifi and Bluetooth were on for all situations and the volume was set at 30%. Here are my results:
- 11 W (~8.5 h of use) – idle, Power Saving Mode, screen at 0%, Wi-Fi OFF;
- 14 W (~7 h of use) – very light browsing and text editing in Google Drive, Balanced Mode, screen at 30%, Wi-Fi ON;
- 16 W (~6 h of use) – 4k fullscreen video on Youtube in Edge, Balanced Mode, screen at 30%, Wi-Fi ON;
- 16 W (~6 h of use) – 1080p fullscreen video on Amazon Instant Video in Edge, Balanced Mode, screen at 30%, Wi-Fi ON;
- 5 W (~7 h of use) – 1080p fullscreen .mkv video in the Movie app, Balanced Mode, screen at 30%, Wi-Fi ON;
- 27 W (~3.5 h of use) – heavy browsing in Edge, Balanced Mode, screen at 30%, Wi-Fi ON;
- 91 W (~1 h of use) – gaming, Dragon Age Inquisition 1080p High – 45 Fps limit.
Overall, battery life is pretty decent on this machine, considering it’s using a quad core CPU that isn’t designed for power savings like the Ultrabook CPU models. It’s certainly a step up from the GS60 and is about on par with the Acer Predator. Of course, the solid results are due to the 92 Wh battery inside.
The 92HW battery inside allows this laptop to last for quite a while on a charge
Price and availability
The model I received is available on Amazon here. There are also quite a few other configurations available, including versions with a 1080p screen and a 970M instead of the 980M. You can find those models through this link.
Dell also has many different configurations on their website, including 980M models with 8GB of Vram. There are also a few different options for the SSD. The prices there are a little steep, so if you’re patient, you might want to wait for a sale.
Lastly, if you’re looking for something a little cheaper, you could also look into the R2 model of the Alienware 17. It’s mostly similar, but is built on a Haswell processor, supports DDR3 RAM and does not have a Thunderbolt 3 port. Also, from what I understand, it uses a different version of the Alienware Graphics Amplifier and a different kind of screen.
Final thoughts
I’ve been really happy with the Alienware 17 R3 in these few weeks I’ve had it. Sure, it’s twice as heavy and twice as thick as my GS60, but it has some pros that make it a desirable machine for me to have around. For starters, the overall performance is incredible. Every game I’ve been able to throw at it played smoothly at FHD settings. On top of that, it runs relatively cool, especially considering it has the top mobile GPU inside.
Another major attraction of the laptop is the 4k screen. It’s literally the nicest panel I’ve ever seen and I’ll probably have a tough time looking at anything else from now on. Not all games play well at 4k, but the screen interpolates to 1080p just fine. Plus, since it’s a 17-inch screen, there were no significant scaling issues, so that’s another plus.
With all that in mind and the fact the sound is also really good, I think I’m actually going to keep this one and sell my GS60. Yes, it’s going to be heavier and it won’t be travel friendly, but I have travelled with the GS60 less and less as of late and I can certainly deal with carrying the Alienware around my house.
The Alienware 17 R3 is a keeper!
Besides the size and weight, there are very few cons as to why I wouldn’t choose the Alienware. The trackpad could certainly be a lot better and maybe the build could be a little more metal and a little less plastic, but those are about it.
As far as the competition goes though, I don’t think there are many that fill the gap in these areas. If anyone can think of any, please leave a comment and let me know. Still, you could also have a look at your reviews of the Acer Predator 17 and the Asus ROG G752, which are some of the best alternatives one could consider.
Anyway, this wraps up my review. I hope it was informative enough to give you an idea of what to expect with the Dell Alienware 17 R3. Since I’ll be having the laptop for a while, please feel free to ask any questions below. I’ll do my best to answer.
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In addition to being a tech enthusiast, Derek has a career as a biomedical engineer. He enjoys taking things apart, figuring out how they work and finding ways to make them better. His other hobbies include spending time with his family, "Do it yourself" projects such as home automation and running.
Chris
March 8, 2016 at 6:20 am
Hello, great review! I have the exact same configuration and I also love it. I was wondering if you’ve discovered where to find replacement a replacement battery. I recently learned in the Alienware 17r3 manual that this battery is only rated for 300 discharges and I would love to have a few backups just in case! Thanks again
Derek Sullivan
March 8, 2016 at 1:17 pm
I’m sure Dell has part numbers for that stuff. I haven’t looked for anything 3rd party yet though since it’s not that old. I’ve never heard of a battery that only lasts 300 cycles though. Maybe that’s just be what they guarantee before it wears or something? If it’s Li-polymer, it should last just as long as everyone else’s.
John
March 8, 2016 at 10:40 am
Thanks for a balanced review. It’s good to have an insight into the hardware (things like the second NVMe slot being x2 instead of x4 for example) pros and cons.
I have read several other reviews of this model and they all read good. I’ve also watched some owners videos on YouTube.
I’ve decided to buy one of these.
My other runner for the buy was the ASUS UX501 with the 15.6″ 4k screen, it lost out because the gamut is not as consistently high between reviews, whereas the Alienware is consistently high on all the reviews.
I plan to use mine for some gaming but my main use will be photography and astrophotography, where I’ll connect it up to my telescopes camera. the norm is to capture hundreds of images (at 24MP in my case) and then process them together to get a stunning picture. This takes a lot of processing power. The 4k screen will allow me to see the fine details of the images.
Having read SSD speeds for this model I will definitely buy a faster SSD (a 512GB 950 maybe), put that in slot 1 and put the Dell supplied SSD in slot 2. I’ll do this on day 1 and before going on the internet, so there will be no risk of having to re-activate Windows again.
I’m contemplating buying another SSD to replace the hard drive, to save power and heat, but first I will compare values for the current hard drive with those of SSD’s like the Samsung EVO.
Derek Sullivan
March 8, 2016 at 1:25 pm
Don’t forget that if you need the processing power, you can also get a model with an i7-6820HK. It’s going to cost you though…
To be honest, I would take any SSD over the one supplied by Dell. I’ve noticed zero real life improvement of these cheap NVMe drives over Sata M.2. Definitely buy yourself a Samsung 950 with the stuff you’re doing. As for the HDD, I bought a 950 Evo 1TB drive about a year ago for about $300. It’s perfect for my needs and I appreciate the extra speed, even if it’s just used as a storage drive. Also not hearing the HDD anymore is a plus. I plan on moving that drive over to the AW as soon as I get the time to gut my GS60.
John
March 8, 2016 at 2:44 pm
Thanks Derek :-)
I was indeed going to go for the 6820HK ;-)
1TB EVO was in my mind too!
I do hope the battery lasts longer than that, surely a typo??
Derek Sullivan
March 8, 2016 at 3:03 pm
You mean the cycles? I’m sure it’s either an error or them just covering their butts to prevent warrantying the battery. Honestly, I’ve never read the manuals for any of these things so I don’t know what the competitor products claim. All I know is Li-ion/Li-polymer batteries usually last way longer than I ever use them.
John
March 8, 2016 at 3:40 pm
Yes, me too!
My phone batteries last 3-4 years and I recharge them daily.
One thing not to do is buy spare batteries and store them, as they degrade on the shelf. Better to wait a couple of years and then see if you need to buy replacement batteries.
Matt
March 9, 2016 at 11:45 pm
I am surprised that the fans are quiet – my Alienware 17 (couple of generations old, 780m Gfx) is very loud – even when simply using chrome. I do wonder if I have something wrong with the system!
Derek Sullivan
March 10, 2016 at 1:29 am
I think it’s all about the fan profile – the fans in the r1 need to run a lot faster to cool a 780m than they do for a 980m. Also, I think Alienware has the fans going at a lot slower speed than they probably should, which is why my thermals on the chassis are so high for day to day tasks. When I manually turn the fans up, those temperatures plummet so it’s pretty clear Alienware was aiming for quietness over overall case thermals. I’ll post the thermals for the fans being on full blast here soon.
Another thing about your system might be dust – considering it’s a couple years old, there might be a lot of dust in the heat sink that is impeding air flow. The fans will need to spin a lot faster to get the necessary cooling in that case.
Matt
March 10, 2016 at 11:21 pm
Re: Dust
I do use compressed air cans to get the dust out, but it tends to revert after a day or so, even after a disassable, clean, reassemble
Andrew
March 10, 2016 at 6:18 am
Good review. Can you add the HWInfo stats during idle, casual browsing, gaming and prime95 load tests ? Similar to the Acer Predator 15 & 17 reviews. I think it would helpful to those who are deciding between the machines in this class. That would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Derek Sullivan
March 10, 2016 at 1:44 pm
Sure, I’ll get them up soon.
Dave
March 13, 2016 at 9:00 am
Hi,
Just thought I better point out that the r3 only has 2 ram slots. It was the older r1 that has 4 slots
John
March 14, 2016 at 12:45 pm
Hi Derek,
Just ordered mine 8-)
I went for the 6820HK, 8GB RAM, 4K screen, 980M with 8GB, but just the 1TB SATA drive.
I’ll wait for the 1TB 950 PRO to come out (soon they say) and see if the price of 512’s drop. I’ll upgrade to 2 x 512’s and also later on to 32GB of fast RAM, some are changing to G.Skill and it works.
As I live offshore I got the VAT off, making it a mere £1,582.49.
:)
Derek Sullivan
March 14, 2016 at 1:17 pm
Great to hear – let us know how you like it! I actually just upgraded to an 950 Pro 512GB yesterday. Totally worth it! My boot time didn’t really improve over the stock NVMe but I think I can tell a difference with some programs. It could just be in my head. :)
I’ll be gutting my GS60 later this week to salvage the other M.2 sata in it and get it ready to sell. One thing I want to try(while I have the GS60 opened up) is the 2133 DDR3L Ram. It’s not DDR4, like in the AW, but the timings are better. I’m just curious if that’s the reason why my PCMark score was a little lower than the competition.
Tad
March 23, 2016 at 12:17 am
Hey Derek,
I am about to order one of these, but I actually just saw that the Acer Predator 17 got a better score, but by a different reviewer. What is your opinion between the two?
Also curious about the graphics amp. When it is in use, is it only using the GPU in the amp? So maybe I could get a 970m to save some money towards a better card in the amp? I would also extend my battery life by a good bit, which will be very helpful when video editing and not plugged in.
And Great Review. Thanks for the help
Derek Sullivan
March 23, 2016 at 1:21 am
Yeah, I’ve never handled the Predator but Andrei and I have touched base a little to make sure our thermals and tests were somewhat consistent. I think the Acer will run cooler out of the box, but the AW has the potential to run cool as well, granted you know how to edit the fan profile. In a lot of ways, the two machines are very comparable. Pros to the AW are a second M.2 slot, color options on the keyboard and possibly quieter fans. But the Predator has the DVD burner, a faster stock SSD and possibly better sound. In the end, it may come down do having Thunderbolt 3 support and the AW graphics amplifier port, which AW has the clear advantage with. I don’t think you could go wrong with either machine really.
When it’s using an external GPU, only one GPU is used. It doesn’t go into SLI or anything. And as for the video card, if you aren’t hardcore into gaming, the 970M is a great card to have. I’m not positive but I don’t think it will save you battery choosing it over the 980M though because once you’re on battery, the dedicated GPU will run at the highest frequency that the battery can supply in terms of watts. So odds are 970M and 980M will throttle to about the same frequency and draw roughly the same load.
Tad
March 23, 2016 at 2:32 am
Thanks for the help, I will go with the 980m. But now I have to decide if it is worth the extra money for the 6820 over the 6700. And you have me convinced to get the 4k screen too. At least I know the SSD is slow, and I can go cheaper there and upgrade it myself.
Derek Sullivan
March 23, 2016 at 12:30 pm
The 6820 is a nice CPU but I’m not sure it’s worth the extra cost. For tasks like Video editing that might be useful, but for gaming, I don’t think you’d be able to tell the difference. You can also OC it, which might be an interest to you. I steered clear solely on cost, but you might be able to justify it more since you probably do more CPU intensive stuff than I do. Good luck on your decision.
Diego
May 13, 2016 at 9:24 am
If I’ll be playing on a table with a mouse Pretty often should I get a cooling pad? I bought the aw 17 r3 with 970m. I’m new to laptop gaming and I want this to last as long as possible I’m not sure what all needs to be done to take care of it and have it run a long time. D
Derek Sullivan
May 16, 2016 at 3:33 pm
Sorry for the late reply. There’s really no need for a cooling pad on this one. I have one and it doesn’t cool any more effective than the system can cool itself. The key is to not block the bottom vents completely, which is pretty hard given how big they are. The only way I could see this potentially being an issue is if you used it on a bed or something. But for your use on a table, you’ll have no problems in the long term.
Dayis
May 27, 2016 at 5:22 pm
I so want to order this monster but I have a few questions before I do. Can 17 r3 users use the hdmi/usb thunderbolt port and plug into a 2560 1600 monitor or a 4k LG/Samsung and still have higher resolutions, I wouldn’t play games but the ability for a laptop to have 4k one screen and extend to 2560×1600 or another 4k tv for work seems amazing. Or does it require a graphics amplifer?
Alex
July 11, 2016 at 12:58 am
It will run on a 4K tv no issues when I game in the living room
Estefany
June 29, 2016 at 9:40 pm
Hi, I loved your review and I have a few questions….I almost buy this computer but in youtube I heard many people saying that it gets pretty hot after 15 minutes and that worries me…thats why I’ve been lookink for another one and I found asus rog 752, but the battery lasting doesnt convince me….So which would you recommend me? it’s the hot controlable? help pleaseeee…And sorry if I have mistakes I speak spanish :)
Derek Sullivan
June 30, 2016 at 2:30 am
The temperatures I posted in both scenarios were taken after more than 15 minutes. There’s really not much more I can add to that. It’s tough to listen to others opinions because everyone’s definition of “hot” is different. Frankly, all gaming laptops get hot. I found the cooling on this one to be more than adequate though. And if you’re really concerned, just turn on performance mode in the bios and the fans will keep it as cool as can be – but also as loud as can be as well.
Scott S
October 13, 2016 at 8:34 pm
I just got my Alienware 17 R4 with the 4k screen. I’m exchanging it because it has backlight bleed all along the bottom edge and right edge of the screen. Also, be warned that the 4k screen does not have gsync. I asked a Dell sale’s rep before I made the purchase if the 4k screen had gsync. I was assured that it did. Alas, the computer has optimus and is not gsync compatible. I am contemplating a refund.
Andy
November 23, 2016 at 9:34 am
I wish mine could get anywhere close to those temperatures. Mine idles at 60 and goes up to 90s in the witcher 3. :(
john will
March 6, 2017 at 8:40 am
so the nvidia graphic card is not integrated? or just same as intel?
thank you!
Derek Sullivan
March 6, 2017 at 1:35 pm
It's switchable with Optimus. Intel and nvidia
john will
March 6, 2017 at 1:36 pm
So i can upgrade to 1k nvidia series?
Derek Sullivan
March 6, 2017 at 1:43 pm
GPU is soldered on that model unfortunately. Not upgradable unless you buy a new motherboard.
john will
March 6, 2017 at 1:45 pm
Okay then, thank you so much!
Tony
November 11, 2020 at 4:01 am
Will you be doing an updated Alienware m17 R3 or m51? Maybe I have missed them on here but I am not seeing any for the recent alienware laptops.
Andrei Girbea
November 11, 2020 at 11:55 am
Unfortunately, we don't have a good source of Alienware laptops, as Dell does not send them to us for reviews and we're a small project and can't afford to buy that many laptops just for articles, so no promise.
Tony
November 12, 2020 at 6:37 am
Thank you for the reply. By any chance do you have any opinion on them from what you have heard. I have been bouncing between numerous laptops, including ones you have suggested to me elsewhere. I use my laptop on a lap board and always have it plugged in. I like 17 inch screens. Right now I am considering
Asus ROG Scar 17
Alienware M17 R3
Predator Helios 300 maybe a 700
MSI GE75
After reading your post of the GE66 you have me considering if I should buy my first 15 inch in over 12 years.
Heck I am all over the place on specs too. I know you have pointed out the value of going lower, which makes sense. But part of me wanting to just do it right and get the i9/2080 combo. So still debating on if I listen to reason with value or go all out just because I can. Thanks again for these great reviews. I have bookmarked and will send everyone I know this way for reviews.
Andrei Girbea
November 12, 2020 at 11:29 am
If you'll decide on the i9/2080, I'd go with the SCAR 17. That gets the 2080 Super 150W chip and improved cooling, and despite the small rubber feet that take a toll on thermals (read the review), it's my favorite performer at that budget (~3K).
If not, the regular 2070 Scar 17 runs fairly hot and I'd rather prefer one of the others. Like I said, can't comment on the M17 R3, haven't tested it, so you'll have to look into some other reviews. Out of the other two, I'd probably favor the Helios for the better build quality and nicer design, although the GE75 performs spectacularly well and offers an excellent cooling module.
As far as value goes, you should ask yourself if an i9/2080 is going to truly benefit the kind of loads you're planning to run right now (or in the near future). The 8Core processor helps with certain CPU-heavy activities, but for games, you would still be fine with a properly powered 6Core i7 imo. As for the GPU, the 2070 and especially the 2080 pay-off if you plan to run games at 1440p or 4K resolutions (on an external monitor). However, if you plan to run them at FHD, the sweet spot is in the full-power 2060 115W (the 2020 update), or maybe up to a 2070 Super. Personally, I'd rather get this sort of configuration right now, keep it for a year or two, sell it off, and then upgrade to the next-gen specs when those mature. Based on the little we know so far, Nvidia 3000 should be a significant jump in performance over the current generation even in laptops, and by 2022 we'll probably see significant changes in CPUs as well. Just my2c :)
Tony
November 12, 2020 at 6:37 pm
Thank you again for taking the time to reply.